Mousavi wins Iran election with 65 percent of vote

Quote from riskfreetrading:

I believe the reason you were attacked unjustly is that you may have mentioned Israel in one of your posts not in a positive way. So you had zionists smearing you on other topics when in fact the real reason they are attacking you is your mention of Israel, which is a liability on the US taxpayer.

Some people are smart enough to see through the verbal chaff. How about department of defense which is a liability on the US taxpayers too. Why not get rid of it as well?
 
Quote from monty21:

Israel is not even a legitimately formed country.... it is nothing more of a puppet of the United States. It is like our starting point to democratize the Middle East.

The Palestians have been historically marginalized. And when the Hezbollah Party won in the democratic elections a year or two ago, America was pissed and did not recognize it. The United States uses "democracy" to prop people in power in other states. God forbid some other party wins a democratic election that is anti U.S..

No one should be invading anyone. This is the 21st century and there should be more diplomacy. The U.S. needs to get out of the middle-east... it needs to stop funding Israel and Egypt (top recipients of U.S. money). It needs to stop telling other people how to live their lives. We don't need military power to influence other countries. We have the world's greatest economy and we should let the free market and trade settle issues.
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Quote from SideShowBob:

Would you say the US should leave Al Queda alone too? Let's send some diplomats to go negotiate with Bin Ladin. This is the 21st century after all!

The US should be protecting its own borders on American soil instead of invading other countries that had nothing to do with 9/11 (Iraq).

If our miliatry cannot find a 6 foot 6 guy hiding in a goddam cave (with all of our most advanced military technology), it makes me think that Osama is 1) dead 2) we don't really want to capture him. Remember, the US always needs a boogie man so the neo-cons can legitimize their actions and pursue their global agenda.

Cheney acts like such a tough guy now but when it was his time to serve in the military he was deferred from service four times! What a baby. http://www.slate.com/id/2097365/

Btw, did you know that Osama Bin Laden was a CIA informant and that the US helped train the Taliban in the late 1970s? (when Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan)
 
Quote from SideShowBob:

Would you say the US should leave Al Queda alone too? Let's send some diplomats to go negotiate with Bin Ladin. This is the 21st century after all!

Of course. We need to negotiate with everyone. It doesn't mean we have to give into any of their demands.

But speaking and acting diplomatically is a better method than bombing and invading countries... with inaccurate intelligence.

Bush's War on Terror is a failure. Not only is the entire Middle-East anti-US foreign policy, but we also pissed off our allies (European countries). There is more acts of terrorism today than there was before 9/11.

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Do you really think Bush made a safer world? Looks like a more dangerous world to me!
 
Quote from monty21:

The US should be protecting its own borders on American soil instead of invading other countries that had nothing to do with 9/11 (Iraq).

I'm sure you'd feel the same if your dirt hut was bombed. Many americans don't feel we should be in Iraq, I'm not going to argue that point. Afghanistan on the other hand.....

Quote from monty21:
If it cannot find a guy hiding in a cave (with all of our most advanced military technology), it makes me think that Osama is 1) dead 2) we don't really want to capture him. Remember the US always needs a boggie man so the neo-cons can legitimize their actions
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While it is possible they let him go to have a bogeyman out there at the same time Bush could have earned HUGE political capital if Bin Ladin was killed so I don't buy it. Even so, what does that have to do with anything?

Quote from monty21:
Btw, did you know that Osama Bin Laden was a CIA informant and that the US helped train the Taliban in the late 1970s! That's when the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan. [/B]

The 1970s???? Please tell me why that matters today? Obviously you're not old enough to remember the cold war, or too old and you've forgotten it. Looking at it now it's easy to say (evidenced by your posts) that we should have picked better allies, but allies are allies when you're fighting a country willing to kill as many people (even their own people) as possible to try and take over the world.

Please dismiss my zionist rants and head back your moderator duties (after you get back from your cross burning and take off your white hood ... white hoods can make it hard to be unbiased when moderating)
 
Quote from monty21:

Of course. We need to negotiate with everyone. It doesn't mean we have to give into any of their demands.

But speaking and acting diplomatically is a better method than bombing and invading countries... with inaccurate intelligence.

Bush's War on Terror is a failure. Not only is the entire Middle-East anti-US foreign policy, but we also pissed off our allies (European countries). There is more acts of terrorism today than there was before 9/11.

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Do you really think Bush made a safer world? Looks like a more dangerous world to me!

Your chart proves zippola. You want proof, see my chart below:

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That said, Bush was a flaming idiot. He f*cked up the war on terror just like he f*cked up pretty much everything else he did, from Katrina to Iraq to the budget to the economy. You could not find a worse manager for pretty much anything than Bush. If I were his father I'd disown him for bringing shame to the family.

Are you the re-incarnation of Neville Chamberlain?
 
Just because I am critical of US foreign policy and its financial support of Israel and Egypt (religious states) does not give you to right to post such arrogant comments about a white hood. My parents are first generation immigrants, I grew up in a diverse part of NY (Queen's, NY), and was raised as a Roman Catholic (not Protestant) although I am no longer religious.

I have a belief, as does the Constitution, that religion has no business in politics. The U.S. should not be supporting any religion states. I will also make the bold statement... if religion did not exist, there would be less war and hatred between different groups. The Israeli's and Palestinians would not be so sensitive and would live together in harmony. They wouldn't have to fight about which God gave them this land. Without radical religion, there would also be less terrorism.
 
Quote from monty21:

Just because I am critical of US foreign policy and its financial support of Israel and Egypt (religious states) does not give you to right to post such arrogant comments about a white hood. My parents are first generation immigrants, I grew up in a diverse part of NY (Queen's, NY), and was raised as a Roman Catholic (not Protestant) although I am no longer religious.

I have a belief, as does the Constitution, that religion has no business in politics. The U.S. should not be supporting any religion states. I will also make the bold statement... if religion did not exist, there would be less war and hatred between different groups. The Israeli's and Palestinians would not be so sensitive and would live together in harmony. They wouldn't have to fight about which God gave them this land. Without radical religion, there would also be less terrorism.

With or without religion the nations have the right on their homeland. Unless you don't like the notion that people are divided into nations as well as you don't like the religions.
 
Quote from gkishot:

With or without religion the nations have the right on their homeland. Unless you don't like the notion that people are divided into nations as well as you don't like the religions.

Okay, but what ensures a piece of land to a certain religion? Its ludicrous to use a Bible, Torah or Koran to justify something like this. A holy book is not a legal document.

Modern day Israel was historically at least once controlled by (among other sects) Jews, Christians and Muslims. After WWII, the allies decided to give the land over to the Jews as a safe haven after the tragedy of the Holocaust. But was it right to punish the Arabs that were already there? There land was stolen and they had little to none political power.
 
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