Yup that about sums up immigration. For the top 10% of those coming in. It's the other 90% that's the problem.
Nice try though
Most Swedes recognise immigration is necessary to sustain economic growth
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Yup that about sums up immigration. For the top 10% of those coming in. It's the other 90% that's the problem.
Nice try though
Don't know where the 10% or 90% source.
But without low wages immigrants, price for a cup of coffee could be double, cost of building a house could be double (due to less demand or labour cost increase,etc.), demand of houses will be diminishing hence house price decreasing when retirees wanting to sell their houses for downsizing, cost for processing of farming produce would be double, if luckily getting labours required, etc.
Without low wages labour supply, on top of population decrease, the overall housing market would collapse, just like Japan nowadays for the last 20 years. Leaving mainly wealthy probably like you staying in the country. Who will be going to serve you for breakfast, fastfood, cleaning the theatre where you enjoy operas, cleaning restrooms, etc. etc.
When there will be only wealthy people living in a country, who are going to fight for the country in case of invasion war, build the warships, etc. Who were the ones that built the cars and roads in the last 100 years.
As mentioned before, and also stated in the article, a country evaluate measures in generations, not years!
IF immigrants was/is such a bad thing/idea to a country, why so many developing and developed countries for so many years till nowadays are still welcoming immigrants without ceasing! Whether the 90% figure is true, or not! Or even 99% being a country's non-productive burden is correct!
Leave emotions at home for a moment, and think about the rational analysis!
Don't forget America was built by immigrants (from foreign soils)!
Why the government today still keeps the following links and programs alive? Knowing the 90% figure being so high!
https://www.dvlottery.state.gov/
https://www.us-immigration.com/greencard/Green-Card-Lottery.jsp
http://www.usadiversitylottery.com/
Enter the Official DV-2019 USA Green Card Lottery
President Donald Trump
The annual Diversity Visa Lottery also known as the Green Card Lottery is a US government program that makes 55,000 Permanent Resident cards available every year to persons from “underrepresented countries,” which have been less represented in employment and family-based preference categories in the United States of America and who meet two basic eligibility requirements. This years (2017) Green Card Lottery Program is called DV-2019 (the year successful applicants may enter the United States of America on the green card they won), and is now open to all individuals worldwide who meet two basic entry requirements. The Program makes Permanent Resident Cards available to the winners, authorizing the winners and their families to live, study and work in the United States of America as permanent residents. The Green Card Lottery program is a United States congressionally-mandated program for receiving a United States Permanent Resident Card, also popularly known as a USA Green Card, due to the green color of the Permanent Resident Card.
DV-2018 is closed. Now accepting DV-2019 Lottery applications.
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Its all a ponzi scheme. There is no society that can survive these days without offloading all the problems to the next generation. Immigration sounds good, until those immigrants all need services in their later years, and the only answer to that is more immigrants. The fact of the matter is, each person consumes more than they contribute. The current system is set up for growth, not sustainability.
I suppose that maybe when it comes to Muslims, if we turn some into suicide bombers, many into fighters, who work for free, and only the promise of a wonderful afterlife, then more can be sucked from their contribution than the proceeds they receive, but this certainly won't work in the modern world.
These days, immigrants require food and shelter, and all of these things boost sales and GDP. I often wonder how countries think they are growing if they post a 1-2% GDP, but then their immigration is also 1-2%. This means there is no growth in reality, just more people using shit they aren't paying for, tacked onto some national debt that never has to be repaid until the whole system blows up.
I suppose that maybe when it comes to Muslims, if we turn some into suicide bombers, many into fighters, who work for free, and only the promise of a wonderful afterlife, then more can be sucked from their contribution than the proceeds they receive, but this certainly won't work in the modern world.
These days, immigrants require food and shelter, and all of these things boost sales and GDP. I often wonder how countries think they are growing if they post a 1-2% GDP, but then their immigration is also 1-2%. This means there is no growth in reality, just more people using shit they aren't paying for, tacked onto some national debt that never has to be repaid until the whole system blows up.
Where did you get the 1-2% GDP spending on migrants as an offset?
Furthermore, the ageing median age for Japan is 46.9 years. Its population's overall earning capability for contributing taxes yearly to national incomes would later be questionable/diminishing!
Immigrant could help improving a country's median age.
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When we think positively (and humanely) after re-reading the original article, also with an open mind, the people expect in longer term the immigrants, whether this generation or next, would (naturally) contribute to the local economy/society, without particularly mentioning conditions of selecting certain migrants.
According to statistics and experiences from so many countries of different cultures, apparently the above expectations should be quite reasonable ones.
Otherwise, again, why so many developed/developing countries are still welcoming immigrants, randomly in big numbers.
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http://www.usadiversitylottery.com/
Enter the Official DV-2019 USA Green Card Lottery
UQ
According to statistics and experiences from so many countries of different cultures, apparently the above expectations should be quite reasonable ones.
Otherwise, again, why so many developed/developing countries are still welcoming immigrants, randomly in big numbers.
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http://www.usadiversitylottery.com/
Enter the Official DV-2019 USA Green Card Lottery
UQ
Not a Swede, but I live in Sweden and have done so for several years.
Don't fall for the lying main-stream media or the treacherous Swedish government propaganda.
Things in Sweden are FAR WORSE than anything Trump has mentioned.
Sweden have literally been over-run by greedy leaches from mainly the Middle East. They rape and molest women an children on a daily basis, the Swedish media and police cover this up in the hope that the Swedish people won't turn to violent revolution.
Officials working in the immigration department tell stories of so-called 'refugees' that book a charter flight back to Somalia or Iraq to go on 'holiday' the very same day they receive their permanent residence permit in Sweden.
I'm living in a country which are experiencing the greatest HOAX in recorded history. There are NO SUCH THING as 'refugees'. They are ALL economic migrants faking their way into the most liberal, indiscriminate welfare state in the world.
The Swedish Social Insurance Authority (forsakringskassan) have themselves admitted that a 'refugee' single mother of three will receive 23,000 Swedish Kroner a month AFTER TAXES in benefits without having to do anything work wise in return. This is in addition to the FREE 3 or 4 bedroom apartment she will be given, jumping the decades-long waiting cues for government housing Swedish citizens will have to endure.
It's a cultural suicide and a mass psychosis and I am left speechless and in utter disbelief daily over the atrocious reports and of the sheer scale of this insanity.
'Most Swedes' are NOT IDIOTS. They realize they are been scammed by the barbarian hordes and the despicable, filthy politicians facilitating this gigantic hoax and the hard-working, upstanding, regular Swedes are moving closer to the ignition point every day.
(Had to sign up just to comment on this thread. Unless you live here, you have NO IDEA just how horrible things really are in Sweden now. Don't fall for the government lies and their genocidal propaganda. And if you think I'm just a frustrated racist right-winger, you would be sadly mistaken. I'm of mixed nationality myself, and my 5-year old daughter is half African and we're muslim. So this is not about right vs. left or muslim vs. anti-muslim.)
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