Most profitable system on collective2 has no subscribers

[gainpower777]

The max DD was 22.5%.... read the tabular data. The C2 algo at the top is wrong.

And my return bests yours... so stop whining.

Feb 2006 DD was 22.5%.

I don't think so , my is bigger , what is total return? My is 1100% at the moment and was probably as high as 1300
% at the top

 

[convexx]

I don't think so , my is bigger , what is total return? My is 1100% at the moment and was probably as high as 1300
% at the top

I have the best numbers ever seen at C2; return / DD.

Apparently you need help with arithmetic. My peak PNL was 1,333% and 1,244% when system was closed. At under 23% drawdown, not your absurd -77%. It's comical that your DD is the inverse of mine. Not good for you.

I returned over 55x draw-down. One sub turned 300K into over a mil in the first year. I know bc he was a client.

 

[xelite777]

Hi Gainpower777:

When exactly did the number of subs drop to zero (month and year)?

Most profitable system on collective2 has no subs for a long time, I am not going to pay listing fee anymore, waste of time, that compared to 20-30 grand us$ A year 6-7 years ago in subscriber revenue, something changed .My returns for the past 7 years 46%, 282%,3%,27%,4%,34%,year to date 6,4%. No loosing years, the oldest system on collective2 ,it trades spot forex

 

[gainpower777]

I have the best numbers ever seen at C2; return / DD.

Apparently you need help with arithmetic. My peak PNL was 1,333% and 1,244% when system was closed. At under 23% drawdown, not your absurd -77%. It's comical that your DD is the inverse of mine. Not good for you.

I returned over 55x draw-down. One sub turned 300K into over a mil in the first year. I know bc he was a client.

My peak is 1270% not far off from yours, drawdown was around 20% as well,77 happened in the last year when I hiked up my trading size 5 times in order to double and triple quickly , I had nothing to lose because there were no subs, so I think we are on the same level

 

[gainpower777]

Hi Gainpower777:

When exactly did the number of subs drop to zero (month and year)?

2012-2013 I don't remember exactly, but it's not important , ppl wised up after 98 crush,before 98 was golden years to make money from subscription , and then it went down to almost nothing

 

[convexx]

lol you lost 42% in Feb, another 30% in April, and nearly 60% in June:

 

[convexx]

Convexx after looking at your equity curve the C2 model is correct your max peak to trough DD is more than 36%

yeah, sorry. I was going on my worst single monthly DD from memory.

 

[convexx]

My peak is 1270% not far off from yours, drawdown was around 20% as well,77 happened in the last year when I hiked up my trading size 5 times in order to double and triple quickly , I had nothing to lose because there were no subs, so I think we are on the same level

Dude, you're insane. Near the same level? 20%? You lost 60% in one month this year.

I exceeded your notional at less than half of your draw-down.

Which would you rather have invested in?

His:

Or mine:

 

[xelite777]

ppl wised up after 98 crush

Keep in mind that there is no bear market in Forex. Never.

before 98 was golden years to make money from subscription , and then it went down to almost nothing

The whole problem has to do with your drawdown and maximum drawdown.

Make 2% a month on average with 20% max drawdown (or less) in 5 years and you will get hundreds of subscribers.

But generate a 70% max drawdown (like in your case) and you are history, even if you manage to return 10,000,000% in 5 years. Now all that your subscribers (and potential customers) see is that huge huge drawdown and nothing else matters to them.

People do NOT like to lose 30, 40, 50 or 70% of their money, period.

See, the secret of making it on Collective2 is to keep the max drawdown under 20% or less. When traders start to see drawdowns that exceed 35% they jump ship and unsubscribe quickly (now conviced you are just another amateur), regardless of your performance.

 

[convexx]

Keep in mind that there is no bear market in Forex. Never.






The whole problem has to do with your drawdown and maximum drawdown.

Make 2% a month on average with 20% max drawdown (or less) in 5 years and you will get hundreds of subscribers.

But generate a 70% max drawdown (like in your case) and you are history, even if you manage to return 10,000,000% in 5 years. Now all that your subscribers (and potential customers) see is that huge huge drawdown and nothing else matters to them.

People do NOT like to lose 30, 40, 50 or 70% of their money, period.

See, the secret of making it on Collective2 is to keep the max drawdown under 20% or less. When traders start to see drawdowns that exceed 35% they jump ship and unsubscribe quickly (now conviced you are just another amateur), regardless of your performance.

You obviously have/had a C2 account... wtf is your link?