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[Scataphagos]

We have a system that doesn't allow 24% of the population to vote. 74 million in fact.

The system is skewed in favor of older voters, presumably wiser, and probably the deepest tax base.

You have a problem with that?

Ditto.

The Founders understood that for America to survive as a democratic republic, voters needed to (1) be informed, and (2) have "skin in the game"... IOW, be "at risk" for our future if you're going to have a say in how we do things.

Unfortunately, we've morphed into the one of the things the Founders tried to protect us against... "tyranny of the majority". "One man, one vote"... with housewives, homeless, parasitic ne'er-do-wells, (even illegal parasitic invaders these days), others... voting for "benefits for themselves at the expense of others" has always been a major threat to the survival of our country.

 

[piezoe]

The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.

I think the EC is actually a mixed bag. It does make a two party political system essential, if it is not desirable to let the House decide elections. It is probably fair to say, however, that the founders, who were decidedly unenthusiastic about true democracy as we define it today, had no intention of letting women and the dispossessed vote. But did they anticipate Gerrymandering? I think not. That, in my view, is one of the two real threats to democracy, assuming democracy is what's intended. And before everyone jumps in to point out that both democrats and republicans have gerrymandered whenever afforded the opportunity, let me issue a pre-emptive response: "I know, but it is still a bad idea if you want to maintain a democracy."

Without a strong public education system, however, it really doesn't matter whether there is Gerrymandering or not; then democracy will produce good government only by accident. True democracy always incorporates the seeds of its own destruction. But isn't that true of all other forms of government as well?

 

[UsualName]

We have a system that doesn't allow 24% of the population to vote. 74 million in fact.

The system is skewed in favor of older voters, presumably wiser, and probably the deepest tax base.

You have a problem with that?

I have a problem with that and we can get into why if you want but you raise a truly debatable point where each side has merit.

When the country was being founded we knocked around a number of different ways to govern ourselves before we ended up with the system we all know today.

Thomas Jefferson was a proponent of a single body legislature made up by representatives based on the amount of tax dollars paid by each state.

If that were to occurs today, theoretically blue states would control about 64% of the federal legislature.

 

[TJustice]

so is that a suggestion that only landowners who pay property taxes may vote? They did not have an Federal income tax back then.

I have a problem with that and we can get into why if you want but you raise a truly debatable point where each side has merit.

When the country was being founded we knocked around a number of different ways to govern ourselves before we ended up with the system we all know today.

Thomas Jefferson was a proponent of a single body legislature made up by representatives based on the amount of tax dollars paid by each state.

If that were to occurs today, theoretically blue states would control about 64% of the federal legislature.

 

[Scataphagos]

so is that a suggests that only landowners who pay property taxes may vote? They did not have an Federal income tax back then.

If I'm not mistaken, income tax became a reality in 1913. Prior to that, America was America. Since, we've been "chipped away" towards Leftism/Communism.

 

[LacesOut]

I have a problem with that and we can get into why if you want but you raise a truly debatable point where each side has merit.

When the country was being founded we knocked around a number of different ways to govern ourselves before we ended up with the system we all know today.

Thomas Jefferson was a proponent of a single body legislature made up by representatives based on the amount of tax dollars paid by each state.

If that were to occurs today, theoretically blue states would control about 64% of the federal legislature.

And for the reasons below, this comment is nonsense.

 

[UsualName]

so is that a suggests that only landowners who pay property taxes may vote? They did not have an Federal income tax back then.

I believe the government was funded mostly off of tariffs when first formed.

 

[UsualName]

And for the reasons below, this comment is nonsense.

Says the king of nonsense.

 

[TJustice]

Which is the way it should be for at least a dozen great reasons. That structure contributed to making America great in the first place.

I believe the government was funded mostly off of tariffs when first formed.

 

[UsualName]

Which is the way it should be for at least a dozen great reasons. That structure contributed to making America great in the first place.

I’m not sure a tariffs only taxation scheme would actually work in the modern era but I agree that there is certainly a place for tariffs and they should be used more, just not blindly and for economic war.