Most difficult markets to manipulate

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travelingtrader

What are the most difficult markets to manipulate?

I am tired of getting screwed by market makers at the NYSE and I am looking for better options. I am thinking maybe stock indexes and bonds would be the toughest to manipulate. I think FX is easily manipulated by big banks at least on an intraday basis. Small cap stocks are easily manipulated.

Anyone got an opinion on this?
 
ES between 9:30 - 11:30 is my preference. When the volume slows down the big boys come out to play but I dont think anyone can control the mornings.
 
ET Definition of manipulate: "I can't make money trading this crap so they must be screwing me over, cause I'm a smartie"

Everything is manipulated jack, get over it.

lol
 
Why do you use the word "manipulate"?

All forms of market manipulation are illegal.
And even if you don't have to succeed...
** Intent ** is what counts under the US system of law.

Just because the securities business if full of sleazebags...
Doesn't mean one cannot chose to make an honorable living at this game.

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The electronic futures markets have no specialists/ MM's. Trade em when liquid, and you won't have enyone messing with you.
 
i suggest traiding with less money -using larget margin..

actually if u know how mm/specialists work and their inventory requirements, u can nicely screw them if u had a bit of money.. but i honestly don't believe manipulation is possible in exchanges too much- maybe for those on low margins it appears that way - they get fired quickly

manipulation is most likely in gold and fx which r politically motivated anyways.
 
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The electronic futures markets have no specialists/ MM's. Trade em when liquid, and you won't have enyone messing with you.
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That's right, there's no one messing with you in the futures markets.

I find it hard to beleive some of you actually trade. Even as losing traders.
 
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That's right, there's no one messing with you in the futures markets.

I find it hard to beleive some of you actually trade. Even as losing traders.
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yeah man, this place is loaded with bozo's and dimwitted a-holes. Actually man, I did a search of your posts and found what a lackey idiot you used to be. However, I have noticed you have come around lately, so congrats on seeing shit as it really is, not as the nitwits pretend it to be.
 
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That's right, there's no one messing with you in the futures markets.

I find it hard to beleive some of you actually trade. Even as losing traders.
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Trades are matched via computers on the exchanges. Tell me how anyone is messing with you.

BTW, I've been trading full time for 20 years. You?

Jay
 
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yeah man, this place is loaded with bozo's and dimwitted a-holes. Actually man, I did a search of your posts and found what a lackey idiot you used to be. However, I have noticed you have come around lately, so congrats on seeing shit as it really is, not as the nitwits pretend it to be.
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lol, shmuck, I defended that a**hole Kramer BEFORE he went off the deep end.

Other than that , no post of mine has ever been anything but genius.

Nice of you to do the research though.
 
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