Most Dangerous? American Black's or Iraqis

[Cutten]

Quote from Hombre:

Majority of the"black culture" creates difficulty for him. He is screwed because the majority of his peer is bad .

First, is it the majority? Where's your evidence that this is the case. Are most black people in jail, or convicted felons?

Second, if he is not like this "black culture", how can they be described as his peers? A black millionaire entrepreneur, or a black college professor or lawyer, is hardly the "peer" of some young ghetto gangbanger.

Third, why should that culture, even if it is the majority, have such an effect on how he is treated? I don't form my view of an individual based on the actions of other people who he has never even met.

 

[Cutten]

Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

Huh? Half the murders in the U.S. are committed by blacks. Hence 'white" America has a murder rate on a par with Switzerland. In fact also strip out Latinos and America has a pitifully low homicide rate.

The studies you mention are flawed in the respect that most of Africa doesn't report. Useless eh? I'll flip your logic though. Look at the ten safest.

(1) Slovenia 0.7
(2) Austria 0.9
(3) Sweden 1.8
(4) Switzerland 2.3
(5) Israel 2.3
(6) Hong Kong 2.4
(7) Norway 2.5
(8) Ireland 2.8
(9) Finland 3.7
(10) Singapore 4.3

Gee, what do those countries have in common?

They are mostly rich, politically stable countries. And you forgot Bermuda, another rich, politically stable country. As I said before in this thread, you need to compare like with like before you can draw any significant conclusions.

As for the US white homicide rate, where are you getting your figures from? It's been some time since I looked at this issue, but I do recall the US white homicide rate being at least double that of most European 1st world countries, with the exception of N Ireland.

Regarding the US murder rate, here's some empirical research for you:

http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=00....0.CO;2-3&size=LARGE&origin=JSTOR-enlargePage

The conclusion was that about half the higher black murder rate was entirely down to structural factors like poverty. Add in cultural differences which we both agree on, and that can quite easily explain the rest. So, no need for any kind of "intrinsic racial" explanation.

If social factors can cause such a huge difference in the US, then I think country factors such as having GDP per capita of 1/20th the US rate, or having major political instability or social breakdown, can easily explain why much (not all) of black africa has a high murder rate. The politically stable countries on that continent have murder rates comparable with other countries in Asia and South America of similar GDP levels.

 

[Rearden Metal]

Quote from Cutten:



Jamaica 49 murders per 100,000
El Salvador 55.3

or

Russia 19.8
Barbados 7.49

or

Latvia 10
Argentina 9.5
Thailand 8.5
Zambia 7.9
**Zimbabwe 7.2**

or

Ivory Coast 4.07
Dominica 2.74
**USA 5.5**

Not only that, but you're only looking at the world as it is today in the 21st century. If you compare the violence rates of whites vs. blacks across <b>the entirety of recorded history</b>, the claims and accusations of white supremacists fall apart completely!

Quote from spect8or:


Where do you stand, Rearden? Are you a budding transcendentalist? Do you look forward to cities and towns all across America one day resembling Lagos or New Delhi? If not, don't you think that maybe, just maybe, and at oh so great risk to ourselves -- to our own temporary and ultimately meaningless existence (according to you) -- we should maybe alert whites to the fate that awaits them? Alert them to the fact that they deserve a continued existence here on this earth just as all groups do? And alert them that securing such an existence is both moral and necessary?

The white race will survive, if it is worthy of survival. (Think: Darwin) It doesn't need outside assistance from you or I.

 

[Hombre]

Quote from smilingsynic:

You're joking, right?

Not at all, you are just too ignorant to comprehend that about 30 million native English speakers spell some words differently then you've learned during your hick , half baked education . Devry it is at it' best .
There are certain segments of society which use English somewhat archaic but still correct mainly because it was the original version . The version of English you 're using would be considered as underclass version . You wouldn't know the difference though , hence your twatty posts .

 

[Hombre]

Quote from Cutten:

First, is it the majority? Where's your evidence that this is the case. Are most black people in jail, or convicted felons?

Second, if he is not like this "black culture", how can they be described as his peers? A black millionaire entrepreneur, or a black college professor or lawyer, is hardly the "peer" of some young ghetto gangbanger.

Third, why should that culture, even if it is the majority, have such an effect on how he is treated? I don't form my view of an individual based on the actions of other people who he has never even met.

he is perceived as one of the " black culture " even if he is not part of it, therefore he is screwed . I really feel sorry for the decent black guys . They are getting the double whammy.

 

[smilingsynic]

Quote from Hombre:

Not at all, you are just too ignorant to comprehend that about 30 million native English speakers spell some words differently then you've learned during your hick , half baked education . Devry it is at it' best .
There are certain segments of society which use English somewhat archaic but still correct mainly because it was the original version . The version of English you 're using would be considered as underclass version . You wouldn't know the difference though , hence your twatty posts .

Yes, you ARE joking. I should say TRYING to joke, because your brand of satire really isn't funny.

 

[Hombre]

Quote from smilingsynic:

Yes, you ARE joking. I should say TRYING to joke, because your brand of satire really isn't funny.

It is not my fault that you are not capable of simple comprehension,
Wow you are the certified, made in USA dumb ass .
Life is too short , you are on ignore from now on...

 

[smilingsynic]

Quote from Hombre:

It is not my fault that you are not capable of simple comprehension,
Wow you are the certified, made in USA dumb ass .
Life is too short , you are on ignore from now on...

LOL.

Now THAT'S funny.

 

[powerfade]

Quote from smilingsynic:

LOL.

Now THAT'S funny.

You have to admit, though... that's a novel defense for bad grammar/spelling. Most people just call you the 'grammar police' (generally misspelling either 'grammar' or 'police') and then slink away.

This guy claims that he's speaking an alternate form of English!

If you pressed him to provide examples in common usage of the erroneously spelled words, he would have a ready answer, although he wouldn't be able to cite an usages. That's the beautiful thing about breaking from reality. Everything is in its place.

 

[Hombre]

Quote from powerfade:


This guy claims that he's speaking an alternate form of English!

I was saying that ENTERPRIZE was an original spelling and it is still used outside of USA . You know , there is world outside of USA .