Most Dangerous? American Black's or Iraqis
- Thread starter Pa(b)st Prime
- Start date
(With a Phd )i hear what u say. however u are also aware of the other factor, namely identity-type issues... farrakhan's NOI is headquartered in chicago... zulu nation... the basis for ingroups is a common definition of ennemies, in these cases white supremacist groups, and their lingering influence in all sectors of the economy, incl education... is this still justified? dunno... one wld've thought that the existence of prominent blacks at all levels of biz, gvt, etc in the US wld have changed the scene for the best, but no... or not yet?Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:
I disagree with most of the studies you've presented. Case in point, the "crack epidemic" as a cause of black homicide rates exceeding whites. Yes, it's clear that the lessening of "drug wars" has abetted the drop in black homicides. However black homicide rates vs. white homicide rates have been constant for FORTY YEARS! Pre-crack, during crack, post crack, blacks have ALWAYS committed around half the homicides in the U.S. each year. Any inference that crack was the relative cause of crime is a pipe dream.
Further, sure there's a correlation between poverty and crime. No doubt. But what makes you think that Blacks aren't pre-disposed to poverty. IMO the SAME character traits that make blacks engage in out of bounds social behavior is the cause of their being inhibited economically.
Is America crazy about Mexican's? These are people who often not only can't speak English, they also are not always literate in Spanish. Many Mexican's immigrating to the States dropped out of school by age 11. So they're poor, uneducated, living as aliens in a nation that doesn't really want them and yet they run rings around blacks. Look at El Cubano. Him and his family came here as refugees from Cuba with the clothes on their backs and yet started business's, bought homes and stayed out of trouble. Yet the Blacks who grew up a mile away are a Taliban like force. Too many blacks just don't have the "goods".....
why the widespread "acting white" syndrome in the US? http://www.hoover.org/publications/ednext/3212736.html
http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/2005/08.25/99-fryer.html
can't think of ANYTHING similar in the EU... and same goes for NOI etc type movements, we just ain't got any, or none that has achieved such size, "recognition" etc that i wld be aware of
dunno... not saying its "their" fault whoever "their" is but its kinda mind-boggling isn't it?
whats the way forward? why are atlanta's 2004 crime stats double the nation's average?
Rob, those are opinions.
I could easily make the case that Darwinism is compatible with Christianity (or any theism). Easily. I just can't be bothered writing that much at the moment, especially since this thread is on its last legs (since loZZzzer and his characteristic illogic made their appearance). But just consider this: don't such 'blind' forces engender humility on our part? That we can't control everything in this world ought to make us a little more humble and appreciative of the things we can control. That some people will be born smarter or better looking, while others less so, some healthy, some sick, affirms the theistic viewpoint on life that we are all given a role to play in this world but it is up to discover it (at which point prayer for divine guidance makes sense). So in this sense while it may 'suck' that fate seems to have cruely ruled some people out of ever reaching certain socioeconomic outcomes, we can take religious solace that there is some divine reason for it and some divine purpose given to such people's lives that overrides the seeming unfairness of their circumstances. at the same time, the social engineering perspective, that anyone could become anything if only given the right environment is thoroughly invalidated; the old adage is true, you can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear.
I agree about the futility of social engineering.
But those "opinions" are in agreement with the most respected scientists in evolution biology.
William Provine: âEvolution is the greatest engine of atheism ever inventedâ (keynote address at the 1998 Darwin Day celebration at the University of Tennessee). He also suggests trying to join evolution with theology, as in beliefs that God(s) somehow started creation but is now out of the picture as being âworthless.â Those type of God(s) âdonât give life after death, they donât answer prayers, they donât give you foundations for ethics. In fact they give you nothingâ (ibid, 1998).
I'm not agnostic but I must admit, a decent quote.
Arbitrary??????
ar.bi.trary \'a:r-b*-.trer-e-\ aj 1: depending on choice or discretion;
specif : determinable by dec ision of a judge or tribunal 2a: arising from
will or caprice 2b: selected at random and without reason 3: DESPOTIC,
TYRANNICAL
then why would there not be literally BILLIONS and BILLIONS of stories and images and notions? For every man that has lived on this earth, from the begining of time, they would each have their own version correct?
