Most Dangerous? American Black's or Iraqis

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It still bothers me, but not <b>nearly</b> as much as this country's rapid descent into fascism.

Why? I can easily escape from the the crack whores and the gangbangers. With my money and my strong preference for rural living, I'm nowhere near the front lines of that battle.
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Don't take this the wrong way, but wouldn't it be accurate, then, to say you care nothing for your country? As long as you're fine, to hell with the rest of the plebs. (I mean, caring about those poor bastards would be 'collectivist', right, and we can't have that.)

Well, there are plenty of people who feel as you do. Probably first among them today's captains of industry. If they can flood the country with cheap labor (with no thought as to the effect such people will have on society), get their stock options and retreat into a gated compound, it's all fine by them.

Would you feel as nonchalant if Israel was being flooded by cheap Arabs? Or if a Labor government took power and decreed the Pal refugees (including their offspring) be allowed to return?
 
Don't take this the wrong way, but wouldn't it be accurate, then, to say you care nothing for your country? As long as you're fine, to hell with the rest of the plebs. (I mean, caring about those poor bastards would be 'collectivist', right, and we can't have that.

-----> A) They're proles, not plebs. Get your terminology right. :p
B) Did <b>you</b> create this website for the purpose of preventing needless human suffering? Nah... that must have been me.
 
"Sure, one way of improving the gene pool would be to simply exterminate the lower classes, but get real, not even Hitler advocated that."

There is no evidence that I know of that exterminating the "lower class" improves the gene pool.

Not even Hitler advocated that, but you seem to....

Man oh man!


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Rob, I certain you only think that because the word is so tainted by association with Nazism.

It's really quite an innocent term, simply reducing to meaning a gradual improvement in the gene pool. Early in the 20th plenty of liberals and socialists thought it was a fantastic idea; among them George Bernard Shaw, Beatrice and Sydney Webb (founders of Fabianism) and Margaret Sanger.

Sure, one way of improving the gene pool would be to simply exterminate the lower classes, but get real, not even Hitler advocated that. As long as the more intelligent classes are outbreeding the less intelligent, that's eugenic. Vice versa, and the effect is dysgenic. Guess which effect our current policies are producing?
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What a foolish comment.

I can't believe how unfounded in any type of logic your arguments actually are.

Kids grow up gravitating to the sporting events that their culture supports. Soccer is not a cultural sport in America, probably never will be. It is not a black or white thing, it is a neighborhood thing. Those who grew up with the major American sports, basketball-baseball-football raise their children while watching those sports...not turning the channel to watch a soccer match. Kids emulate their parents, go for the sports that are considered cool in school and most likely to get the "chicks" and are played in the neighborhood.

I wager most Americans view a sport where you can't use your hands to play it as squirrely...we have this thing about hand eye coordination being important in sports...not foot eye coordination.

Besides, how often do we see a brawl on the soccer field? You see more raw violence in the stands. Americans like violent sports, physical sports, aggressive sports...not a bunch of small men in short shorts...

It ain't a black or white thing, it is an
American thing...

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How many black faces do you see at American soccer matches? I wonder why. Whites enthusiastically support black dominated sports and yet it's whites who are supposedly the big racists, working 24/7 to exclude the poor black man.
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Sorry Pabst, I think the question is absurd.

There is no area in any american-city that a convoy of US Marines in Hummers couldn't traverse unscathed.


But, the stats clearly prove american blacks disproportionately perpetrate crimes in the US.


Without any mention to cause, the Black population has been living in Depression-Like conditions for decades in this country. Albeit, Depression-Like conditions in the US would be living fat in Africa.
 
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All three of these are <b>real</b> stories I've been told while living in Chicago. Don't take this the wrong way, Nik... but in all three cases I knew (correctly) before I was told, that the criminal was a black person.

So I'd have to say that local societal factors <b>must</b> play a far more important role than genetics.
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Hell no, RM. There's nothing there that surprises me. It's the same thing up here. When I hear of a club shooting at such and such an intersection, of course the first thing I imagine is a gang-banger with his pants down to his knees and his hats (yes, plural) on sideways popping a cap in one of his buddies because the other guy looked at his 'ho' the wrong way. 95% of the time, I'm right.

White kids don't shoot each other up here, as a rule. And, I'm glad we're spending more money on the search for the genetic marker for sickle cell anemia than we are on the one for 'more likely to be able to load a handgun'.
 
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Well yeah, that too. Although it's obviously 'extermination' in the sense that liberals and anti-eugencists understand it. To them, 'extermination' means firing squads and gas chambers.



I'm not really sure I know what the Darwinian worldview is. Certainly I think Darwinism is a valid (and validated) concept.
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Prof. Richard Dawkins - respected and prolific writer on evoloution -writes that in a universe governed by Darwinism (as he claims our universe to be) “some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won’t find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice.” (1995, pp.132-133).

Douglas Futuyma: “By coupling undirected, purposeless variation to the blind, uncaring process of natural selection, Darwin made theological or spiritual explanations of the life processes superfluous. Together with Marx’s materialist theory of history and society and Freud’s attribution of human behaviour to influences over which we have little control, Darwin’s theory of evolution was a crucial plank in the platform of mechanism and materialism – of much of science, in short – that has since been the stage of most Western thought.” (Futuyma, 1986, p.2).

Shallow or what? Anyway with that sort of worldview anything goes.
 
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Prof. Richard Dawkins - respected and prolific writer on evoloution -writes that in a universe governed by Darwinism (as he claims our universe to be) “some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won’t find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice.” (1995, pp.132-133).

Douglas Futuyma: “By coupling undirected, purposeless variation to the blind, uncaring process of natural selection, Darwin made theological or spiritual explanations of the life processes superfluous. Together with Marx’s materialist theory of history and society and Freud’s attribution of human behaviour to influences over which we have little control, Darwin’s theory of evolution was a crucial plank in the platform of mechanism and materialism – of much of science, in short – that has since been the stage of most Western thought.” (Futuyma, 1986, p.2).

Shallow or what? Anyway with that sort of worldview anything goes.
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you a grad student?
 
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