Nik is an idiot. Period. Not ONCE has he ever come on this thread and DISPUTED the clear facts that U.S. blacks commit murder at a per capita rate of 8x whites. But of course anyone who questions WHY this occurs and WHY the media and politicians are SILENT is a racist. LMFAO.
Neither Dan NOR Nik should even be involved in this discussion. Why? Because as an Australian and as a Canadian the two of them know as much about American crime and American Blacks as I do about ice hockey and Australian Rules Football. (although to Dan's credit he knows a lot about the NFL, another reason he's an in tune guy)
As RM pointed out I'm a native Chicagoan who lives in both Chi-Town and in South Florida. In each city the incident of white crime is RARE. In fact Chicago's murder rate amoung whites is lower than almost any city in Europe. Out of the 600 or so murders that will occur this year in Chicago, less than a DOZEN of them will be committed by whites! So do guns kill or do Blacks kill?
Nik, talks about un-educated whites harboring predjudice more often than rich folk. I would CERTAINLY think so! What neighborhoods in the North did Blacks flee too? Are they integrated into America's fine "leafy" suburbs? No. The average wealthy, suburban white guy in the States has as much contact with blacks as a Canadian does. Even the liberal, yuppie, gentrifying pioneers stay away from black neighborhoods, prefering instead to re-hab housing stock in formally white "working class" districts. Funny but I don't see the South Bronx or Woodlawn in Chicago or Watts or Anacostia in D.C. becoming en vogue places to reside amoung the liberal elite. Gee, I wonder why? OF COURSE it has NOTHING to do with race or crime. Yea right.
Nik, I'd like you to find one post where I've EVER said that IMO blacks are geneticlly inferior, geneticlly pre-disposed to crime or any utterance where I've even HINTED that Black's should be reduced in number or marginalized. I HAVE said vis a vis my VAST experiance with blacks, life experiances that DWARF yours, and let's face it, my ENTIRE LIFE dwarfs yours, that 40% of the Black's I've PERSONALLY known are assholes. Given that I live in a city where half of all black males have been INCARCERATED that hardly seems a stretch. In fact I posted this once:
"I've spoken frankly about race. I grew up and still live in a VERY diverse neighborhood in the city of Chicago. I know the demographics of U.S. cities like the back of my hand. My particular neighborhood would be something like Jackson Hgts in Queens or even more so if you can imagine rolling the Castro, the Mission, the Haight and Hunters Point all into one. So yea Rictor, I've had "black" neighbors, classmates, co-workers and fellow church goers since high school when my neighborhood became an in vogue center of diversity.
I was like any white, urban kid who listened to Motown, disco and the Philadelphia Sound rather than Judas Priest (I picked a band I've NEVER heard a song by). My inclination, upon the black emigration to my area was to embrace black culture. I was into the whole mystique of Kool as personified by such mid-70's "black" icons as Richard Prior, Redd Foxx, Dr.J., Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, and I hate to admit, Cinque of the SLA!
"There are many, many, many totally genius, in tune, African-Americans. In EVERY walk of life. But like I've said, IMO,statistically, there's a higher percentage of "blacks" who are pricks, than whites. Period. Now I AGREE that circumstance defines actions. But as someone who doesn't feel that I contributed much to the circumstance, I've become resentful that my lifestyle has to suffer from these alleged "injustices." I already hear much of what you're saying, at least on a spiritual, philosophical plane. Yet in the practical, in a global economy that's given Mexicans, Asians and even native-Africans an edge over African-Americans, all Americans, must examine what's needed to speed along the snail like pace that's occurred since the 1860's."
Nik is a troll MUCH in the spirit of muZZZlim. As RM pointed out,
"Another important trolling tip I learned by observing LoZZZer's work: The lioness does not indiscriminately launch an attack on every animal she wishes to eat. She stalks her prey, determining which specific individual antelope is weak, tired and slow. The expert troll must use this very approach, as not every post is worth trolling. ZTroll specifically waits for someone to discuss a topic which is of great personal importance to the prey. With an innate sense of unyielding discipline- a product of millions of years of painstaking troll evolution, ZTroll crouches in the brush, patiently waiting for an <b>emotional, dedicated post.</b> A post where the prey feels so strongly about a certain topic, he can't restrain his emotional enthusiasm when arguing his point. Any post of this sort in chit chat is guaranteed to spark a LoZZZer trolling effort. The predator will then deftly pounce upon its prey, pretending to laugh hysterically at the victim's strong willed, passionate assertions while distorting them in straw-man fashion. Eye on the prize, the creature will then tightly lock its fangs around the prey's neck, clinging tightly to the jugular while deftly wringing the life from its prey until the victim <i><b> cracks</i></b>- i.e., becomes highly frustrated and visibly redfaced. This in turn provides the troll with its well earned nourishment, as well as the creature's only source of sexual gratification: <b> Furious anger and anguish. </b> Thus, the circle of life continues."
While everyone knows that RM and doodoo are Jewish, that wael is a Muslim, that Pabst is a Chicago white guy, hell half the Board knows who RM and Pabst are BY REAL NAME, loZZZer's like muZZZlim and tradernot are as GUARDED as they can be about "who they are." Telling eh. The biggest trolls are the LEAST open people on an ANONYMOUS message board! Nik, not only does no one care who you REALLY are, no one cares who you PRETEND to be. You're a cypher, a non-enity, a bitter wanna-be.
Not QUITE as bad as loZZZer but not NEARLY as intelligant as him either. I'll admit it, I could possibly sit down at dinner with loZZZer and enjoy his company. You? I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
Neither Dan NOR Nik should even be involved in this discussion. Why? Because as an Australian and as a Canadian the two of them know as much about American crime and American Blacks as I do about ice hockey and Australian Rules Football. (although to Dan's credit he knows a lot about the NFL, another reason he's an in tune guy)
As RM pointed out I'm a native Chicagoan who lives in both Chi-Town and in South Florida. In each city the incident of white crime is RARE. In fact Chicago's murder rate amoung whites is lower than almost any city in Europe. Out of the 600 or so murders that will occur this year in Chicago, less than a DOZEN of them will be committed by whites! So do guns kill or do Blacks kill?
Nik, talks about un-educated whites harboring predjudice more often than rich folk. I would CERTAINLY think so! What neighborhoods in the North did Blacks flee too? Are they integrated into America's fine "leafy" suburbs? No. The average wealthy, suburban white guy in the States has as much contact with blacks as a Canadian does. Even the liberal, yuppie, gentrifying pioneers stay away from black neighborhoods, prefering instead to re-hab housing stock in formally white "working class" districts. Funny but I don't see the South Bronx or Woodlawn in Chicago or Watts or Anacostia in D.C. becoming en vogue places to reside amoung the liberal elite. Gee, I wonder why? OF COURSE it has NOTHING to do with race or crime. Yea right.
Nik, I'd like you to find one post where I've EVER said that IMO blacks are geneticlly inferior, geneticlly pre-disposed to crime or any utterance where I've even HINTED that Black's should be reduced in number or marginalized. I HAVE said vis a vis my VAST experiance with blacks, life experiances that DWARF yours, and let's face it, my ENTIRE LIFE dwarfs yours, that 40% of the Black's I've PERSONALLY known are assholes. Given that I live in a city where half of all black males have been INCARCERATED that hardly seems a stretch. In fact I posted this once:
"I've spoken frankly about race. I grew up and still live in a VERY diverse neighborhood in the city of Chicago. I know the demographics of U.S. cities like the back of my hand. My particular neighborhood would be something like Jackson Hgts in Queens or even more so if you can imagine rolling the Castro, the Mission, the Haight and Hunters Point all into one. So yea Rictor, I've had "black" neighbors, classmates, co-workers and fellow church goers since high school when my neighborhood became an in vogue center of diversity.
I was like any white, urban kid who listened to Motown, disco and the Philadelphia Sound rather than Judas Priest (I picked a band I've NEVER heard a song by). My inclination, upon the black emigration to my area was to embrace black culture. I was into the whole mystique of Kool as personified by such mid-70's "black" icons as Richard Prior, Redd Foxx, Dr.J., Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, and I hate to admit, Cinque of the SLA!
"There are many, many, many totally genius, in tune, African-Americans. In EVERY walk of life. But like I've said, IMO,statistically, there's a higher percentage of "blacks" who are pricks, than whites. Period. Now I AGREE that circumstance defines actions. But as someone who doesn't feel that I contributed much to the circumstance, I've become resentful that my lifestyle has to suffer from these alleged "injustices." I already hear much of what you're saying, at least on a spiritual, philosophical plane. Yet in the practical, in a global economy that's given Mexicans, Asians and even native-Africans an edge over African-Americans, all Americans, must examine what's needed to speed along the snail like pace that's occurred since the 1860's."
Nik is a troll MUCH in the spirit of muZZZlim. As RM pointed out,
"Another important trolling tip I learned by observing LoZZZer's work: The lioness does not indiscriminately launch an attack on every animal she wishes to eat. She stalks her prey, determining which specific individual antelope is weak, tired and slow. The expert troll must use this very approach, as not every post is worth trolling. ZTroll specifically waits for someone to discuss a topic which is of great personal importance to the prey. With an innate sense of unyielding discipline- a product of millions of years of painstaking troll evolution, ZTroll crouches in the brush, patiently waiting for an <b>emotional, dedicated post.</b> A post where the prey feels so strongly about a certain topic, he can't restrain his emotional enthusiasm when arguing his point. Any post of this sort in chit chat is guaranteed to spark a LoZZZer trolling effort. The predator will then deftly pounce upon its prey, pretending to laugh hysterically at the victim's strong willed, passionate assertions while distorting them in straw-man fashion. Eye on the prize, the creature will then tightly lock its fangs around the prey's neck, clinging tightly to the jugular while deftly wringing the life from its prey until the victim <i><b> cracks</i></b>- i.e., becomes highly frustrated and visibly redfaced. This in turn provides the troll with its well earned nourishment, as well as the creature's only source of sexual gratification: <b> Furious anger and anguish. </b> Thus, the circle of life continues."
While everyone knows that RM and doodoo are Jewish, that wael is a Muslim, that Pabst is a Chicago white guy, hell half the Board knows who RM and Pabst are BY REAL NAME, loZZZer's like muZZZlim and tradernot are as GUARDED as they can be about "who they are." Telling eh. The biggest trolls are the LEAST open people on an ANONYMOUS message board! Nik, not only does no one care who you REALLY are, no one cares who you PRETEND to be. You're a cypher, a non-enity, a bitter wanna-be.
Not QUITE as bad as loZZZer but not NEARLY as intelligant as him either. I'll admit it, I could possibly sit down at dinner with loZZZer and enjoy his company. You? I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
