Huh???
Most Dangerous? American Black's or Iraqis
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Huh???
In Israel, between the Ethiopian Jewish immigrants and the non-resident African laborers, black people aren't uncommon at all.
... but black crime? Unheard of, believe it or not.
On the other side of the fence, in the so-called Palestinian territories, there is also a sizable black African minority. Those reading these boards probably didn't even know that, since the
Palis don't make any significant societal distinction between Black and Arab.
I've also lived in Chicago. There, the whole race issue is completely different. (And that's where pabst is coming from, btw)
Let's say someone tells you a story like; "My sister was attacked outside her apartment last night. This guy pushed her down to the sidewalk, grabbed her purse, and ran off."
Or:
"I was at the ATM getting cash, and this bitch suddenly came of nowhere, and tried to grab my money!"
Or:
"Did you hear what happened on the Wacker bridge last week? Some Merc trader mouthed off to a panhandler, and the bum took out a knife and stabbed him!"
All three of these are <b>real</b> stories I've been told while living in Chicago. Don't take this the wrong way, Nik... but in all three cases I knew (correctly) before I was told, that the criminal was a black person. In Chicago, that's just how it is. Tell me those same stories in Israel, and Africans would be the <b>last</b> people I'd suspect.
So I'd have to say that local societal factors <b>must</b> play a far more important role than genetics.
You're right, nearly all of the American ethnic groups shun the act of rioting. That's exactly why the Bush regime has been able to cross out large sections of our Constitution. Every week the gov't pulls more shit. Every week the nation becomes less free.
<b>Make no mistake, a riot or two would be healthy for America at this point. </b> You can't stop tyranny by shrugging your shoulders and quietly getting on with your day. To the politicians, that just says; "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
Nicky, while you might find them bizarre (or simply claim to), I find them perfectly reasonable. It's not just some exercise in extremism I'm engaging in, testing how far I can push the envelope until someone 'calls me out', at which point I begin profusely apologizing. I happen to be quite sincere.
I envy people like you acro. I wish I had the luxury of sitting idly by pretending everything is going to be just fine. I cannot see how it can possibly be just fine. In twenty or thirty years time (on our current course), when things are manifestly not just fine, spare a thought for old spec, will ya?
Maybe it's deafening because they understand I don't advocate 'eliminating' anybody. Or perhaps it's because they're swayed by my arguments but they don't want to publicly admit it for fearing of incurring the wrath of moral crusaders like yourself.
Sure, if Shaqwanda, highschool dropout and pregnant at 13, can be discouraged from having more children, then fewer blacks will be born. That is hardly the same eliminating the black race. But besides that, so what if in, say, three hundred years, blacks did breed themselves out of existence? How is that different to a high and mighty white moralists claiming indifference to whether the white race survives or not? Some whites openly cheer on the day when, they believe, whites will no longer exist. All I advocate is a smaller proportion of deadbeats across all races (if the proportion of deadbeats to geniuses in the African races is higher than in others, too bad). Who's the real genocidal maniac then?
Unheard of? Really?
What the Israelis I've discussed the Ethiopians with tell me is that Ethiopians are firmly at the bottom of (Jewish) Irsaeli society. If both that and what you say is true (and I've heard so many accounts of the former that I have to believe it), then it's a refutation of poverty causing crime every bit as much as genes causing it.
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I appreciate the compliment rob, though I would have preferred you found my reasoning compelling while being indifferent to my writing. Well, can't win 'em all.
Well, your writing and reasoning power stand out.
On this topic, though, you make an incredible leap into eugenics which is not only almost cruel, but I believe fundamentaly rooted in a shallow materialistic worldview. Kind of beneath you, really.
Sure, there are millions of unwed, unemployed American women who crank out one kid after another, with absolutely no intention of providing for their needs...
But you're an Australian, Dan. How does any of that affect you?
Why would you care?