Most Dangerous? American Black's or Iraqis

Quote from acronym:

Modern society, is a drug culture, make no mistake-what appears to be a local problem goes back thousands of years, has not only never been conquered, but is the very basis of everything we look to as human culture , or societal advancement, all based on drugs, and SHITLOADS of them.


Not just drugs, thinking processes.
The world depends on a self-induced state of ignorance in order to keep it in one's experience.

Quote from Gospel of Thomas:

28. Jesus said, "I stood in the world and found them all drunk, and I did not find any of them thirsty. They came into the world empty, and they also seek to depart from the world empty. But meanwhile they are drunk. When they shake off their wine, then they will change their ways."

Jesus
 
Quote from spect8or:

Dog breeds clearly differ thus the proper inference is that for all the genetic similarity the devil is in the details.

Differences breed hatred.
The world is for hatred, so there must be differences.

In heaven, there are no differences.
There are no classes, levels, grades, breeds, races, distinct cultures or belief systems.

Differences stem from the idea of special identity.
Specialness translates to a Guiness World Record book of strange facts.

Everyone wants to be special in this world.
If he can't be the richest, he'll be the poorest.
If he can't be the healthiest, he'll be the sickliest.
The world is about the "best" and the "worst".
This makes for an interesting hell.

All of this is made up before time and space.
Once the big bang sets it in motion, the die is cast, and your fate is sealed.
In the course of time, the special will experience every facet of speciality.
In the course of time, since the big bang,
most humans have rolodexed through miriad races, conditions, and belief systems throughout reincarnational migrations.
To pin race or gender on anyone as an identity is foolish, in light of this fact.
Culture is rooted in being special.
This is the main cause of differences, and the violence it breeds.
Attack maintains differences and special identity.
If the identity is temporarily built around 'most violent' then...

In heaven, all are equals.
In heaven, all are the same.
In heaven, no one is special, not even our Father.
We are truly One.
So we are at peace.

Jesus
 
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I cant disagree with that, I dont know how you did it, apart from clever evocation,but its true, as is evidenced by basic tribal conflict in kenya now.

As is evidenced by tribal conflict in Africa probably since time immemorial, but certainly at least since independance. No one does tribal conflict better than the Africans. I guess they're yet to realise what a 'strength' all their magnificent diversity represents.

Africa will be recolonised at some point in the future. I'm quite sure of that. Africans are simply incapable of running a modern, industrial economy. Hell, they're not even capable of running an agricultural economy -- which is why they have famine's every decade or so on the same land that white farmers were producing surpluses from within living memory.

Whites are too wracked with guilt and compassion to march back in and restore some semblance of civilization, but the chinks don't seem too perplexed. They can't force the issue too much for now, because American humanitarian zeal is still militarily powerful. But in the next fifty years, as America collapses under the weight of its own stupidity (by refusing to recognise baseline racial reality, thus paying welfare to feckless blacks to perpetuate their poverty, thus leaving the borders open for millions of the dumbest chulos to waltz through at will and perpetuate some poverty of their own), China will likely be able to throw her weight around in Africa as she pleases.


Who needs elections, when they would be better off , assuming a democratic basis, of a sort of proportianately weighted tribal council;
far more democratic, much fairer for all concerned, and better suited to the tribal climate of the region.


Democracy works with intelligent, civilized and, I would argue, homogeneous groups. But even then it's vastly overrated. A five minute talk with the average voter should be sufficient to confirm that. And of course modern democracy is the greatest scam, since the media decide for us what the issues will be and thus what our interests are, even if those are not really our interests at all. Democracy = media-cracy = mediocracy.


A two party system is the shits, and is bound to cause problems, one way or another, where a tame electorate is not guaranteed.

In America it's not a two-party system, it's a jew-party system. The whole thing's jew-rigged from top to bottom.

That's the value in a Ron Paul type. That's why they're threatened by him. That's why they can only ignore or smear him, because he threatens the corrupt existing order. I mean, just take those 'revelations' made about the newsletters he allegedly wrote. No attempt was made to determine their truth value; he was simply smeared for saying what, in the supposed land of the free, must never be said, or even thought. Think about that. Here you've got a candidate whose own convictions remain truer to the constitution of the very land that the president is to govern by an order of magnitude over the other candidates, yet he's painted as some sort of dangerous extremist.
 
Quote from smilingsynic:

What is your scientific evidence for your "links".


I trust we've established that race is analytically meaningful and is not described solely by reference to skin color.

Black-white IQ differences are well known to exist and are not denied by any researcher. Arguments for a hereditary basis for such differences are summarized here (from a recent high-profile debate):
http://www.cato-unbound.org/2007/11...eimer-on-race-and-intelligence-opening-moves/

A table summarizing what Professor Gottfreddson calls "Yes-But Rejoinders" to a hereditary basis is reproduced below.

gottfredson-table.jpg



Impulsivity? Defined as what? Measured by what?

Defined as the ability/inability to delay gratification.

A 1961 study by Walter Mischel (googl found black children more likely than white children to prefer a smaller candy bar today than to wait a week for a larger one.

What is the proven scientific link between testorerone levels and what you refer to as "impulsivity"?

It was drop-of-the-hat speculation. Blacks do have higher levels of testosterone and this is known to correlate with aggresiveness and sex-drive (which, as a former steroid user I can anecdotally confirm).

I assume then that women have significantly less impulsivity then men, since they tend to have significantly lower rates of testerone than men.

Touche. Despite the uproar, science does demonstrate that males and females do differ biologically, too, however.

Your notion that blacks (defined how, again?) "fail at education" is easily refuted by the fact that scores on IQ tests have risen, that graduation rates of blacks have skyrocketed in the last several decades.

The touted IQ rise is an artifact and graduation rates are not meaningful measures of educational accomplishment ("dumbing down" etc).

Indeed, test scores and graduation rates should not increase at all if blacks are genetically predetermined to "fail at education."

The quoted remark was spoken hastily and is not wholly accurate, yet its gist remains true: black educational attainment lags that of other groups and since the basis for this is genetic, it will continue to do so.

Moreover, I don't concede your equalitarianism the status quo. There is no good reason to do so apart from the common desire that equalitarianism be true -- which, scientifically, is not a good reason at all.

Further still, the matters under discussion have been well-established since the civil rights era, and it is only because obfuscators and obscurantists -- mostly communists, a disturbing number of them jews -- keep muddying the waters every time the point is raised that the appearance of uncertainty is maintained. This is a frustrating and damaging state of affairs and one must suspect malfeasance on the part of those involved.
 
Quote from spect8or:

There isn't any precise definition. It refers to relatedness. Members of a "race" are more closely related to each other than to members of other races. They share more common ancestors with each other than they do with members of other races. Two Europeans are more closely related -- share more common ancestors -- than a European and an African. Thus a race can be thought of as an "extended family."

Moreover, just as members of one family physically tend to physically resemble each other more than they do members of other families, members of one race tend to physically resemble each other more than they do members of other races. The differences in physical resemblance go much further than simply skin color. There is an unquestionable difference between the typical/average Swede and the typical/average, say, Spaniard, such that one could guess with a high degree of accuracy which race/subrace/family an individual belonged based on nothing more than eyeballing him, and this though both Swedes and Spaniards are often regarded as "white." Where there have been few geopgraphic impediments to population flows, "races" have mixed with one another, such that distinctions between subraces are blurred. Where impassable bodies of water or deserts or mountain ranges have impeded population flows, less mixing has occurred and thus populations in those geographic regions have, over the course of time, remained more distinct.

A more accurate definition of race is not possible nor necessary. If it is impossible to speak of racial distinctions, it is also impossible to speak of any other biological distinction, or of any other groups of objects commonly referred to, and the attempt to do so would so hobble our language that communication would be severely compromised.

If you cannot offer a precise definition, your views cannot be regarded as scientific and are therefore irrational.
 
Quote from smilingsynic:

If you cannot offer a precise definition, your views cannot be regarded as scientific and are therefore irrational.

Wrong.

I repeat:

A more accurate definition of race is not possible nor necessary. If it is impossible to speak of racial distinctions, it is also impossible to speak of any other biological distinction, or of any other groups of objects commonly referred to, and the attempt to do so would so hobble our language that communication would be severely compromised.
 
Quote from spect8or:

Wrong.

I repeat:

A more accurate definition of race is not possible nor necessary. If it is impossible to speak of racial distinctions, it is also impossible to speak of any other biological distinction, or of any other groups of objects commonly referred to, and the attempt to do so would so hobble our language that communication would be severely compromised.

No, I am right. Irrational and intellectual immature, you are just grasping at straws. It is not "impossible" to speak of "biological distinctions," since biology is a recognized field of study. Credible biologists set forth testable propositions.

You bring up "race" and then cannot even define the word. Defining terms is critical in debate. If you cannot define the term, you have no business talking about it.

Empiricists deal with testable propositions. Clearly, you are not an empiricist. I speak the language of reason, while you speak of a language of irrationality, and, indeed, of prejudice.
 
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