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Quote from oktiri:

Democracy is about CHOOSING your leader after doing your homework. When your main "issue" is a flag pin, then you're STUPID not trusting.

Funny, get the Stars & Stripes out, make sure you say 'the American people' at least once every 5 minutes plus throw in a few crappy 'marketing' slogans and bang you've got a good chance of getting the masses.
 
Quote from forsalenyc:

what determines the 30yr fixed mortgage rate? I thought it was the 10yr treasury note. can the banks arbitrarily set the rate?

They are not exactly arbitrary, but banks do set their mortgage rates somewhat loosely based upon the 10 yr.
 
Quote from AK100:

Funny, get the Stars & Stripes out, make sure you say 'the American people' at least once every 5 minutes plus throw in a few crappy 'marketing' slogans and bang you've got a good chance of getting the masses.

Sadly true. If we Americans were at all politically savvy, neither of these jackalope candidates would even be on the ballot.
 
Quote from gnome:

That's TOTAL BS!

Nobody deserves to be abused just because they are naive and trusting.

Elected leaders are supposed to act in the best interest of the country and its citizens. Ours do not, regardless of whom we elect. :mad:




at your age, one would think you'd have grown up and grown a brain.

The last time I checked, the local sewer rats don't pull the voting lever.

"naive and trusting" my ass.

more like "Stupid and demented'.

It amazes me that individuals who believe the earth is 6000 years old are allowed to run for the position of VP.
 
Quote from arealpissedgoy:

at your age, one would think you'd have grown up and grown a brain.

The last time I checked, the local sewer rats don't pull the voting lever.

"naive and trusting" my ass.

more like "Stupid and demented'.

It amazes me that individuals who believe the earth is 6000 years old are allowed to run for the position of VP.

Oh come on. If you're making a point make it logical. Americans are not any more "stupid and demented" than any other population.

Isn't it something like 85-90% of the world's population that believe in a deity? And are not people extremely emotional about their religious beliefs? (Much like trading, I might add...)

How then is somebody going to run for office as an avowed athiest?
 
Quote from gnome:

Oh come on. If you're making a point make it logical. Americans are not any more "stupid and demented" than any other population.

Isn't it something like 85-90% of the world's population that believe in a deity? And are not people extremely emotional about their religious beliefs? (Much like trading, I might add...)

How then is somebody going to run for office as an avowed athiest?



Anyone who believes the earth is 6000 years old should not be allowed to run for office.

The majority of people who believe in the existence of a God don't think the earth is 6000 years old.

The belief is held only by a demented few. And these few have become well organized and vote in every election.

And therein is the crux of the problem.

Most of these leaders are selected during the primary process. The average level of voter participation at the primary level is less than 10%.

So what is happening is 10% of the population ends up selecting the candidates that eventually head on to the national elections. Because they're the only ones who bother to vote in the primaries.
 
Quote from arealpissedgoy:

Anyone who believes the earth is 6000 years old should not be allowed to run for office.

The majority of people who believe in the existence of a God don't think the earth is 6000 years old.

The belief is held only by a demented few. And these few have become well organized and vote in every election.

And therein is the crux of the problem.

Most of these leaders are selected during the primary process. The average level of voter participation at the primary level is less than 10%.

So what is happening is 10% of the population ends up selecting the candidates that eventually head on to the national elections. Because they're the only ones who bother to vote in the primaries.

Now you got it. It's a HUGE SCAM... and designed to be protected from change.
 
Quote from oktiri:

Every country gets the leaders they DESERVE.

Country, yes. Individual taxpayer, no. I never voted for this crap. And I never voted for the clowns who made this happen. I watch voting records. Where do I get my tax refund for this game?
 
Quote from GermanTrader:

Country, yes. Individual taxpayer, no. I never voted for this crap. And I never voted for the clowns who made this happen. I watch voting records. Where do I get my tax refund for this game?

Unfortunately it's human nature to be lazy and greedy.

Some of America just wants the Gummint "off of their back and out of their way".

Many more, unfortunately, are comfortable with the idea, "if somebody's going to give me something for nothing, I'll take it"....

Except it only APPEARS to be "for nothing"...
 
Quote from arealpissedgoy:

Anyone who believes the earth is 6000 years old should not be allowed to run for office. The majority of people who believe in the existence of a God don't think the earth is 6000 years old.

Well, you're wrong on both counts there, guy. Sorry, neither science nor history back you up. Lots of people swallow that lie just like the Fed and IRS, so don't feel too bad.

Most of these leaders are selected during the primary process. The average level of voter participation at the primary level is less than 10%. So what is happening is 10% of the population ends up selecting the candidates that eventually head on to the national elections. Because they're the only ones who bother to vote in the primaries.

Agreed. Politics is a game to keep the pee-ons quiet, to keep them busy thinking the game of the rich and powerful is really something we can effect. I learned after Nafta that politicians are there to do what they want, without recourse of the people, because voting is a sham. Nevertheless, it is my right and I use it, for what it's worth.

Gnome is very knowledgeable on this issue.
 
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