Quote from jem:
that was the problem with the church attempting to get free labor. some of the priests and nuns were absolute idiots. Especially the ones from Ireland. Most of my ancestry as Irish so bash me all you want - but if you want to talk Catholic guilt (not supported by the Catholic Catechism) you should point your finger at the stoic hard working under educated Irish in America and probably Ireland.
You just do not get nearly as much Catholic guilt being spoken of by french, italian, spanish, or mexicans.
Funny how the church thought an Irish kid who ate a balony sandwich on a Friday had committed a grave sin
But also thinks the mexican who comes here and breaks every law there is has done nothing wrong