The steepness of the 2 day drop would imply more downside...agree or disagree? Also we closed on the lows Friday. Afternoon session was steeper than AM. I bet Monday we bounce but after that, more downside.
More Downside....
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Granted, some of it was related to options expiration...but looking at these charts of SPX, NDX, etc...it's hard to see the support (a massive intervention could relieve it temporarily), but those Oct 2014 lows were a melt-up higher, so there is still a vacuum down another 100+ SPX points...
Also look at where VIX peaked out at swing lows back in 07-08 and compare that to now...How much lower would we have to trade to approach those levels...scary stuff.
Option Expiration had absolutely nothing to do with the big drop on Thursday and Friday. Any influence option expiration might have on the markets would cause the markets to trade flat - as in Maximum Pain or Pinning - both which are a myth.
LOL.
But I don’t read or hear about companies going bankrupt so far, like Bear or Lehman in 08.
I deleted the post...I figured he was being sarcastic...
That's probably in the cards...I think we are probably in 2007 right now and 08 is ahead of us...Someone out there is getting reamed with energies and their debt in the tank...Now add equities getting pounded and some leveraged entity must be bleeding in a big way.
I agree. I feel it is just a matter of time until bad news hit the newspapers. Also, when I hear that no matter what the news is, the market decides to trade lower... I see it as an early sign of a bear market. Could be wrong though.
Have you come across any Energy debt research? From a rating agency or other?
Glencore , commodity trading firms and some financials from 2008 have been ridiculously weak. In some stocks we are still in a bear market