More and more, I'm beginning to believe that a Right Wing mindset is a mental defect

Do you believe that a Right Wing mindset is a mental defect?

  • Yes

    Votes: 17 31.5%
  • No

    Votes: 38 70.4%

  • Total voters
    54
Quote from Gabfly1:

Well, the results seem to be in for the most part. At the time of this writing, 32 organ pods participated in this poll. I still don't know how they manage to get by with brain stem alone, but I attribute it to the adaptive wonders of nature. Their courage in the face of such personal adversity is truly inspiring.

ROFL Gabfly that's funny your killing me hahahaa :D
 
Quote from Ivanovich:

That's exactly my problem with you on many issues you present in this forum. Instead of going after the issue that drives you, you'd rather post something that conveniently slanders your arch-enemy, the Republicans. It's also my point in our conversation regarding Katrina/Oil spill - Bush/Obama - fault/no fault. You just want to cherry pick the things that make your case without the consideration that maybe, just maybe, there could be something else that is the problem.

It's not just you, either. It's most people. It's even me. I try, however, to focus on the issue instead of who is supporting the issue. As you are well aware, I am a conservative. I am also a registered Republican. But I disagree with the GOP on many things and I admit I voted for Obama last time (something I sorely regret now).

I try, sometimes unsuccessfully, to focus on the issue and MY viewpoint on it based on my upbringing of what is right and wrong. Not the GOP's stance. I won't defend them blindly.

Unlike many liberals on this board (and in person I have met) you are someone who should spend the energy focusing on the issue, not the partisanship. With your wit and intellect, you could make a far greater point in many discussions would you do that.

Just my observation. I'm sure I'll get flamed for it.

Oh, and incidentally, there is nothing wrong with the original article you posted. It'd be a fine and interesting read, if it weren't for the fact that the only reason you posted it was the send another Hatfield shot across the bow of the McCoys. Had you posted it with the article I did, and said something to the point of "do liberals and conservatives have different wiring?" then it'd be a good discussion (that would inevitably turn into a feces slinging fest like every thread in this forum). But it would be worthy of someone your intellectual caliber.

Ivanovich you are not the typical republican. The republican party has taken on a fundamentalist belief, a religious fervor and an attitude of anyone that disagrees with us is wrong and even evil or worse a socialist. I too try to focus on issues. My main problem with the republicans, they are a focus on what they think are principles (or what the gurus tell them are their principles) and not a focus on what will work, a truly narrow minded group of people for the most part.
I have no proof except observation but I think people inclined to strict fundamentalist religious belief are more inclined to be fundamentalist republicans. And they follow the Rush, Hannity, Beck's and the other sub-cult republican leaders just like the religious follow the TV preachers and religious gurus.
Does the left has it's own set of problems, of course. But the right presents a much greater danger to our nation than the left, so that is where our focus should be controlling the right and preventing the cult from leading our country.
 
Most folks think their position is the correct position, not only for themselves but others.

When that decision that something is correct is the product of indoctrination and done so in a fundamentalist way...black and white, all or nothing, a God argument, a particular spin on the constitution, then the belief in what is correct becomes like concrete.

In turn, the proponents become self righteous in their positions. Everything is hard and fast. Question it? "Look in the Bible, it is right there what is correct." Question something else? "Look in the Constitution, it is right there what is correct."

When you bring up that the Bible or Constitution were written a long time ago, and the people who wrote them are no longer here to help us interpret those words properly...they get all self righteous.

It really boils down to whether someone thinks they can reason by themselves to what is right, that they can make a superior argument for what is right based on secular thinking and common sense.

If they see that their position is wrong, because they are open minded, their mindset and ideas can change.

If their thought process is erected on a foundation of "Jesus said it" or "The Framers said it" there is pure fundamentalism.

When these fundamentalists observe two religious men arguing over what Jesus meant then you typically have a religious conflict...which often ends up in killing someone for their different spin on what Jesus was attributed to say.

When these fundamentalists observe two constitutional scholars arguing over what the words of the Constitution actually mean as applies to situations today...you see at the extreme a Civil war.

All of this is because of the fundamentalist disease of thinking being the product of a belief system...often a religious belief system.

Why can't people just make fallacy free arguments for their position? Why can't their be a reason that wins the argument...and not self righteousness, dogmatism, "Jesus said" or "The Constitution says" yada, yada, yada.

Probably because the emotions get so rooted in the feeling of being right...the feeling of being right, the self righteousness is addictive and emotionally driven.

Quote from bigarrow:

Ivanovich you are not the typical republican. The republican party has taken on a fundamentalist belief, a religious fervor and an attitude of anyone that disagrees with us is wrong and even evil or worse a socialist. I too try to focus on issues. My main problem with the republicans, they are a focus on what they think are principles (or what the gurus tell them are their principles) and not a focus on what will work, a truly narrow minded group of people for the most part.
I have no proof except observation but I think people inclined to strict fundamentalist religious belief are more inclined to be fundamentalist republicans. And they follow the Rush, Hannity, Beck's and the other sub-cult republican leaders just like the religious follow the TV preachers and religious gurus.
Does the left has it's own set of problems, of course. But the right presents a much greater danger to our nation than the left, so that is where our focus should be controlling the right and preventing the cult from leading our country.
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Most folks think their position is the correct position, not only for themselves but others.

When that decision that something is correct is the product of indoctrination and done so in a fundamentalist way...black and white, all or nothing, a God argument, a particular spin on the constitution, then the belief in what is correct becomes like concrete.

In turn, the proponents become self righteous in their positions. Everything is hard and fast. Question it? "Look in the Bible, it is right there what is correct." Question something else? "Look in the Constitution, it is right there what is correct."

When you bring up that the Bible or Constitution were written a long time ago, and the people who wrote them are no longer here to help us interpret those words properly...they get all self righteous.

It really boils down to whether someone thinks they can reason by themselves to what is right, that they can make a superior argument for what is right based on secular thinking and common sense.

If they see that their position is wrong, because they are open minded, their mindset and ideas can change.

If their thought process is erected on a foundation of "Jesus said it" or "The Framers said it" there is pure fundamentalism.

When these fundamentalists observe two religious men arguing over what Jesus meant then you typically have a religious conflict...which often ends up in killing someone for their different spin on what Jesus was attributed to say.

When these fundamentalists observe two constitutional scholars arguing over what the words of the Constitution actually mean as applies to situations today...you see at the extreme a Civil war.

All of this is because of the fundamentalist disease of thinking being the product of a belief system...often a religious belief system.

Why can't people just make fallacy free arguments for their position? Why can't their be a reason that wins the argument...and not self righteousness, dogmatism, "Jesus said" or "The Constitution says" yada, yada, yada.

Probably because the emotions get so rooted in the feeling of being right...the feeling of being right, the self righteousness is addictive and emotionally driven.

Great post 777!

As for an answer to your last question, the solution is not always easy to come by. Most problems are extremely complex esp those of politics, philosophy & religion. And then there's the disagreement in appropriate selection of premises to argue from. The problem of extenuating circumstances ... and just what the truthful facts are etc

So you can see simple reasons/solutions almost never work. That's what makes for a horserace and the stockmarket. Want to argue about it lol :D
 
Quote from killthesunshine:

shits on people that work for their living...
Hardly, in fact I help support them, I've eaten at McDonalds several times in the past couple of weeks.
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Most folks think their position is the correct position, not only for themselves but others.
In turn, the proponents become self righteous in their positions. Everything is hard and fast.
Why can't people just make fallacy free arguments for their position?
Probably because the emotions get so rooted in the feeling of being right...the feeling of being right, the self righteousness is addictive and emotionally driven.

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Which begs the question: Why am I a flaming idiot on ET to begin with? I'm not educating or changing anyone's views.
 
Quote from Gabfly1:
Birthdays and anniversaries?
road trip/drive through
Quote from killthesunshine:
Were you drunk last night? :D
ps I don't work or eat at McDonalds
No but Optional obviously was/is.
Quote from TraderTactics:
What was your 1st job that gave you monthly salary.
Quote from killthesunshine:
McDonalds. I'm still there :D
 
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