Monuments dedicated to Thomas Jefferson and George Washington are the next targets

Can't condone the mob violence and tearing them down in a riot. Remove them in an orderly fashion. Some should go to a museum, others to the trash heap. I'll leave it to the historical society to decide what goes where.
Every war, every battle, every skirmish has it's heroes and cowards, with most just thankful to have survived another day. It's difficult to honor your enemy in the thick of it but upon reflection one can usually find empathy if not honor. They believed, they fought, they put it on the line when others did nothing but talk. I respect any man or woman who faced the horror once and went back again and again.
Time to bury this civil war hatchet and move on, not that I'm so naive as to think it will end there, but it's a start and maybe cooler heads can find that gesture as a starting point. If not, lets go to hell in a blaze of glory. Had to say that just in case someone thought my account had been hijacked.:D

better yet, the smelter to make shells for the troops
 
Because they are false military as no real military person would advocate for squares, statues and memorials to displayed all over to honor traitors and those who took arms against the government, even if they were Americans..
So for 150 years America honored traitors?
 
They believed, they fought, they put it on the line when others did nothing but talk. I respect any man or woman who faced the horror once and went back again and again.

The problem with that justification is the same can be said about Nazis, the Taliban, Al Queda, ISIS... they all fought for the beliefs and risked their lives for a cause.

I mean to repeatedly blow yourself up to kill civilians in a bus or cafe takes real courage and conviction....Nazis truly believed in their cause and fought like hell until the bitter end. Think of how much guts it took for Al Queda to face drones and troops and still come back to commit mass shootings at hotels and car bombs at checkpoints.
 
So for 150 years America honored traitors?


Just the Southern States who wanted to remind the locals who the real heroes were and put down any thoughts of getting rid of Jim Crow. There were statues up since the end of the Civil War but the bulk were done in the 1910s and 1950/1960s when Blacks got too demandy for Civil Rights.

Go to Gettysberg, Antietem and other places that are wonderful history museums without an attempt to glorify anything but recount a terrible war in U.S. history. That is where these figures belong, in a museum with the truth about them discussed and told, not glorified like great heroes who fought for the United States.
 
Just the Southern States who wanted to remind the locals who the real heroes were and put down any thoughts of getting rid of Jim Crow. There were statues up since the end of the Civil War but the bulk were done in the 1910s and 1950/1960s when Blacks got too demandy for Civil Rights.

Go to Gettysberg, Antietem and other places that are wonderful history museums without an attempt to glorify anything but recount a terrible war in U.S. history. That is where these figures belong, in a museum with the truth about them discussed and told, not glorified like great heroes who fought for the United States.
You don't get it. That is allowed.

Tear them down. Its Orwellian but lets get on with it. I don't want to see a single statue anymore. We will honor no white person. We will rewrite history over and over and over. "Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia".

Pull Lincoln down off that chair and throw him face first into the reflecting pool. Just get it over with.

I will shed a tear when they get to burning the libraries but hey, easy come easy go. Should have stuck with clay tablets lol.
 
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You don't get it. That is allowed.

Tear them down. Its Orwellian but lets get on with it. I don't want to see a single statue anymore. We will honor no white person. We will rewrite history over and over and over. "Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia".

Pull Lincoln down off that chair and throw him face first into the reflecting pool. Just get it over with.

I will shed a tear when they get to burning the libraries but hey, easy come easy go. Should have stuck with clay tablets lol.
don't be an drama queen Karen; nobody likes an attention whore
 
don't be an drama queen Karen; nobody likes an attention whore
You're funny. You think it stops with a few statues. You're a funny guy.

You see, its a package deal. If Confederate statues come down then they all come down. Its priced in so to speak. Its already happening. You don't expect Tyrone to differentiate between white historic figures do you? He just sees a statue of a white dude and its got to come down.

So.. pull them all down. Drop the pretense and let 'er rip.
 
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Gelsenkirchen: Lenin statue erected in German city
  • 20 June 2020

....Gabi Fechtner, described the communist leader as "an ahead-of-his-time thinker of world-historical importance, an early fighter for freedom and democracy", according to the AFP news agency.
 
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