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"real" pro trader...your questions are highly annoying to me. The one very important lesson I taught my children (somehow your parents missed teaching you) ...more often than not... there is no ONE right answer. Your questions are inane with a multitude of answers some right some wrong. You buy, sell or hold based on a very personal decision made after analysis of indicators either you follow or have created. YOUR answers may or may not be MY answers and guess what...YOUR not always right and NEITHER am I. Following someone blindly is the surest way to losing money, and the vast majority of the posters in this options section are not stupid and do not appreciate being talked to as though they are idiots.

get over yourself:mad:
 
Is it not funny how you all seem to avoid answering the questions posted and raise force fields the minute someone questions your basic logic !

I am here only because I was asked by a friend, no other reason, and I will not be staying long here by the looks of things, but I will wait to see if one person can reply to any of my posts without insulting me, and answer the questions that I asked.

Not too much to ask for, I would have thought, but then again, all is never what it seems, is it !

RPT
 
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"real" pro trader...your questions are highly annoying to me. The one very important lesson I taught my children (somehow your parents missed teaching you) ...more often than not... there is no ONE right answer. Your questions are inane with a multitude of answers some right some wrong. You buy, sell or hold based on a very personal decision made after analysis of indicators either you follow or have created. YOUR answers may or may not be MY answers and guess what...YOUR not always right and NEITHER am I. Following someone blindly is the surest way to losing money, and the vast majority of the posters in this options section are not stupid and do not appreciate being talked to as though they are idiots.

get over yourself:mad:
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All I am doing is posting a few serious trading related questions, that, anyone who professionaly trades and knows what way the markets operate, should be able to answer, easily !

It is very simple. If you must, then read my questions again.

RPT
 
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I was in the market, it didn't fizzle me, since I am not a directional trader. Next day I wrote spreads on GM, GRMN and some other stock. I should have waited few days and the market tanked a little more taking all my positions underwater, but I had 45 days ahead of me and when it bounced I was out with profits.
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What you're saying doesn't add up. You say you were in the market during 9/11, and it didn't fizzle you. You say you have a $100k account and can make 6-9% consistently per month. If you've been making that much money consistently for several years, you should have a few million by now.
 
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What you're saying doesn't add up. You say you were in the market during 9/11, and it didn't fizzle you. You say you have a $100k account and can make 6-9% consistently per month. If you've been making that much money consistently for several years, you should have a few million by now.
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I never said I was in 9/11/2001. I was making lot of money in real estate and mortgages at that time. Stock market wasn't too great as I remember and dotcom bust was too new.

I had been during the market drop on March 1, 2007. That is what my statement is about and the 400 point drop didn't fizzle me.
 
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Ok, lets see who want's to answer this question !

Why, and when, would a Market Maker bid up the price of a Call Option, knowing that he may have to Buy that Option at that price if someone decides to sell it to him ?

Remember, a Market Maker has to make a market on either side, that is why he is called a Market Maker !

Now, surely if you are buying, then you want to Buy Low, and if you are selling, you want to Sell High.

And what about our friend the Market Maker !

Why is he making Options Expensive and then having to Buy them himself ?

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You don't seem like trading options very much. There is a tone in that post that tells me you either exploring this field or you are new to it.

Rest be assured people make lot of money in options, some are outright gamblers and horse traders and Las Vegas handle pullers. To them this kind of activity is somewhat a tame Casino with lot of rules.

Some of them are conservative " Income Generation " option players and they generate a solid stream of consistent income without risking a lot of capital and pursuing the colors of the rainbow. There are lots of opportuinites, earnings, events, and other mispriced situations. Some are downright speculative and sensational. Some of these players don't get involved with those things and focus on proven, consistent income generation activities.

Making consistent safe levels of incomes is the penultimate of options trading, a purer and refined field often pursued with a lot passion and results in lots of success for a number of years.
 
How much money one can make depends on persons trading ability and capital utilization.

I am an income generation trader, who derives his resources, with consistent streams of safe returns using conservative trading strategies. These strategies are not a secret and are available to anyone in this forum.

What is important is the desire to keep yourself focused on income generations strategies and donot get involved in the speculative side of options trading where ' Home Runs' are made.

People make and lose lots of money and and it becomes a horse race or something akin to it. This speculative side is where accounts get closed in 6 months and margin calls plague newly opened accounts . Its sheer gambling and nothing more. I would rather play few hands of blackjack with a single deck and count the cards and stiff it to the dealer than play options. Its pure entertainment to rip the Casino for few hundred bucks and pay for your trips and walk away with a smile and a drink in your hand.

But when you are considering buying your milk and groceries and paying your mortgage than its an entirely different type of stake at hand. It becomes a pure business, an enterprise and a money making machine, with exact accounting and monetary gains and losses all accounted for at the end of the day. Things take on a real somber mood. Markets are scanned and understood and risk/ reward carefully evaluated before trades placed with best possible and desirable fills. Things take on a different perspective.

You act and behave like a well organized business entity, just like a Hedge Fund or a brokerage house.

Without taking additional and significant risks with your trading capital , one can presumably generate 5-10% returns every month consistently in any given market conditions. This may seem small at first but its a lot of money, that even the mutual funds and best of the breed money mangers cannot fit in year after year. Annualized its 50% to 120% returns on your trading capital or simply your 'ROA' Return on assets. That means if you started with a 100K account you should have 150K or 220 K at the end of the year. That 100K assets under consideration are still making a safe 10-15% annual return on their own by being fully invested in T- Bills, money market accounts, or dividend paying stocks. So you get another 10-15% return in addition to the returns that you made by actively managing your ' Mini- Hedge Fund' for yourself.
 
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Ok, lets see who want's to answer this question !

Therefore, which is best and when and why ?
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I have found the answer and it is here for all to behold:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E69flRylQRo

It is flowing like the wind...
...in serenity...
...peaceful harmony...
...only known to those with keen insight...

... it's "beautiful!!!"
 
Why is it that the "safe 10% monthly returns in any conditions" types never seem to mention their risk beyond two deviations? I find it hard to believe there is all this low-hanging fruit at 1:1 risk.

10:1 risk in verticals is not safe under ANY definition you'd like to propose.
 
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