Money Mgmt beats Stops Everytime - Example

I use very wide stops and don't day trade. ....hahaha....I'm just here for the contest. I'd actually want to join if it were forex....
 
I talked to profit. I take back most of what I said :). It's a systematic method whcih is good. Plus I see how it does work a majority of the time, especially with the way he does it. Someone new to the game would have a real difficulty with it.

My opinion is that....
In addition, he's right it's only going to work on the indexes with consitency. It's probably not because of the data set though.

It's the result of what a larger data set does to produce a more reliable setup for this.
 
Quote from athlonmank8:

I talked to profit. I take back most of what I said :). It's a systematic method whcih is good. Plus I see how it does work a majority of the time, especially with the way he does it. Someone new to the game would have a real difficulty with it.

My opinion is that....
In addition, he's right it's only going to work on the indexes with consitency. It's probably not because of the data set though.

It's the result of what a larger data set does to produce a more reliable setup for this.

Most people cant really understand what he is doing and how it would work. I like his approach since it is quite original. When I look at his chart we see the exact opposite thing. I enter into position late and get out late. He gets in early and out early.
 
Quote from ProfitTakgFool:

I did exactly what you did. Back test entries and search for optimal stop level. The answer I got was, "WayTF down there!" I couldn't find anything that was reasonbly close that didn't reduce the edge so I keep them far away.

I'd have to write a book on my method to explain it fully but briefly, I'm trading very small position sizes relative to my account size and I measure the amount of risk I take on each trade and each day for the past 4 years. I have predefined limits that I trade within. As long as I trade within these boundaries I'm good. The biggest 1-day loss I've taken over the past 2 years is 2%. You just have to be disciplined enough to know when you've gotten beat.

Profit, I have no doubt that what you are doing works, for the market & style you are trading. I understand your basic concept and for the market you are trading you have to let your trades breathe and in doing so, you increase your win probability and therefore your profits. And knowing when you are beat by the market seems simple to me on your system, and thats when your losing trade hits a critical percentage of your account you are not willing to absorb or another indicator that tells you its time to get out, more than likey an oscillator that is giving you a heads up the market is turning against you. I appreciate your aggressive approach in taking control of your trading than letting the market take control of you. The great thing about trading is there is many ways of trading as there are styles of trading, and it cracks me up that some say that trading has to be done a certain way to be successful/profitable. Hey, my opinion is if it works for you then by all means do you and laugh all the way to the bank. Then again, why go to the bank, that's what wire transfers are for and laugh in your computer chair......lol
 
Quote from ProfitTakgFool:

Indeed, you do need to be careful. You need to have a circuit breaker on your platform and you have to be disciplined enough to know when you have to hit the trade out button. To use a positioning/scaling/averaging/whatever you want to call it method, you have to have predefined limits that trigger the trade out. Going bigger, and bigger, and bigger, in the face of cascading losses is a recipe for disaster.
You mentioned that many times you'll build a larger and larger position as the market is moving against you. What information do you look at in deciding the market has no intentions of reverting to the mean?
 
Quote from athlonmank8:

His stops are further away? Who gives a shit. He's adding on the way down. REAL traders add on the way up.
Have you never heard that Market Makers and locals buy on the way down and sell on the way up. Think about it and you may understand how professional traders make their money.
 
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