money is everything?

money is everything????????

  • Money is everything. trading strss worth it

    Votes: 17 51.5%
  • trading full time is hell

    Votes: 10 30.3%
  • life is more than just about money. trading is waste of time

    Votes: 6 18.2%

  • Total voters
    33
is the stress you get from trading worth it?

is life all about money?

is trading AS A PROFESSION the worse job there is?

most people who trade don't want to merely work for themselves, or make extra money. they want lots of money. but is the energy and time and stress, and the years trading takes from ur life really really worth it?
 
When I was trying to get into the game I went to a family friend for advice. He was a NYSE floor trader with Bear for 30 years. Highschool to the floor. He told me "if your a trader its in your blood, and if it is you will make it work".

Edit = most traders I know do it for the game itself. Money is secondary.
 
I was/am very much into poker. Trading is a natural extension of my poker playing.

As I've told a number of people if the money was taken out of poker, then what would be the point? So the money is important.

People who trade have to be able to take risk, just like in poker. Conservative people will never make it.
 
maybe the question i should've asked is:

can anyone be profitable trading without given all their life to it?

i don't know any profitable trader who has a free life away from the market too.. if u know wot i mean..

can trading full time successfully or not, be trully integrated into a happy life?

i think the plan for most is: trade and make lot of money, THEN LIVE LIFE.. and for some, the living never happens, because they either lose it all, or don't make enough and never meet their expectations.. they get stuck into a pipe.. they'r life becomes trading.. wining and losing.. and ends with nothing.


in short, life is much more than speculation. hope u agree..
 
I don't get it Batman, why are you so hell bent on proving that day trading is the shittiest thing in the world? Did you try and fail, now you're justifying everything?

Please help me here.
 
Quote from Batman28:

is the stress you get from trading worth it?

Trading should not be overly stressful. If it is, you are mostly likely A) doing something wrong, B) trading too much size, C) do not have a plan for every trade, or D) All of the above.

is life all about money?

Yes and no. Asking a question like this shows a lot of immaturity. I say this because you need money to live and whatever level you chose to live at is subjective. If you've been successful at anything in your life, i.e. given a 110% effort and reaped either a monetary or emotional reward, the answer to this question should be easy.

is trading AS A PROFESSION the worse job there is?

I believe you are asking this because you do not understand the business aspect of trading and the types of inherent risks. This leads me to believe that you have not worked in a corporate environment and have not been subjected to effective business management either.

There are many parallels between the corporate world and the trading world that most people who have not paid their dues in the business world simply do not get. The biggest one: in order to be your own boss, you have to be a good boss. You have to enforce discipline, performance and conscientiousness upon yourself - you have to be your own leader. This requires motivation (usually a result of positive thinking and an inherent can do attitude) and a strong desire to succeed. Many I've worked with call it "hunger".

most people who trade don't want to merely work for themselves, or make extra money. they want lots of money. but is the energy and time and stress, and the years trading takes from ur life really really worth it?

I believe that you have no goals at the moment and you are wandering through your life without any real ambition. Trading (on the surface anyway) requires little formal training and hence you are attracted to because it seemed like a simple (read easy) career path. Here's the point: EVERYTHING worthwhile takes commitment and time, the sooner you commit to something, the sooner you will start making progress.

I am probably coming across as rude, but that's fine. There's a small chance that my comments irritate you enough such that you develop a motivation to prove me wrong.
 
Jho what are you talking about? who said anything about day trading? huh? wot the hek..


TheCaracal, that's why im asking.. i thought maybe i can understand.. i'm not sure myself.. i definately believe trading etc. all comes down to personality, and how u view money and life. the way i see it, money is trading's ultimate objective. sure it excites some people, but you really believe those "i trade for fun" would be so dedicated if it didn't have no return?

so moving on our discussion, the more money you want > the more hard work > better trading?

maybe the point is this: successful traders don't see the other sides of life - purely and conditionally given their dedication to trading, which is necessary to be successful at great levels. you can say it's the same in all professions, but there aint as much 'losses' in others.. less speculation.. less volatility.. playing with risk can distroy the soul for some.. to trade for living u gotta be one raw cold hek of a bastard..
 
Mike I agree completly with everything you said, but I have couple of questions for you.

1) What do you do? What kind profession are u in?
2) Have any advise on what to do to succeed, while you are still in college?


PS I am going to college next year, looking for help now.


Dont get me wrong, I am not looking for life advisor but I am looking for help.

On great man once sayed..." Life is to short to learn from your own mistake"........so I am trying to learn from other.....get the drift.

Thanks in advance
 
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