money equals happiness ???

Quote from marketsurfer:

some people would consider 1 million free and clear rich. i would consider myself monetarily rich with 25 million free and clear. what about you guys ??

surfer

i'll take 1,000,000 x 1,000,000

:D
 
Money cannot buy happiness. However, poverty be pretty sad.
I don't think many would argue with this.

How many really rich poeple are truly miserable? How many commit suicide, take anti-depressants, become freaks like Howard Hughs, or Michael Jackson? Too much money can be a burden. Someone asked if Michael Dell travelled with an entourage and was pointed at like a media star. I don't know about Mr Dell, but I do know of a very well known trader (mentioned here often), who is a completely different person than he was before he became a billionaire. Now he does travel with an entourage.....to insulate himself. He is a very disturbed guy. Not happy, not pleasant to be around. Basically paranoid that people only think of him in terms of his money. And the truth is, that's pretty much what he has become all about.

As for myself, I now own cars that are worth more dollars than my wife and I used to earned combined in 4 or 5 years when we were ski bumming in Aspen. We lived hand to mouth. They were the happiest days of my life.

Some of you know, she died very young. Money doesn't mean shit sometimes. My son was 10 when she died. A trillion dollars wouldn't compensate him for that. I got lucky and met another great lady. But it had nothing to do with money. Like I said, I just got lucky.

If I could make a trade, and have my first wife alive and well, and my son have had his mother for the past 8 years, I would gladly drive a beat up Hyundai rather than a brand new Lexus. No question about it. Hell, I'd take the bus.

Peace,
:)Rs8.5
 
money = 50%*happiness
happiness - money = health, love, family, respect, loyalty, friendship, self-realization, religious beliefs, beer:)

anyhow if you have to ask if the money equals happiness, you're kind of a how should i say it, very un-wise, inexperienced/dumb person who has no clue about life. that's the kind of question 13 year olds ask each other. and if at your age you're still not sure about the answer to this question, i'd say you're kind of a lost cause.
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:



No offense, but those who say they would continue to trade, are essentially saying that they would spend their time in the same way.

This is foolish. If you suddenly had the money to travel, or do whatever you want, you might likely find new avenues that would be more enjoyable than your past enjoyable behaviors.

Those who speak about what having money would be like, are just dreamers in so many ways.

The reality is that people with money, do lots of other things than the common folk, many that they never dreamed of. You begin to travel in different circles, are exposed to new values, etc.


Optional,

I never said I wouldn't do other things, I just said that I would continue to trade.

It's funny you bring up travel. It's my other passion in life. I've been to more than twenty countries and I hope to at least double that before I die.

Trading gives me the ability to enjoy things I would otherwise never have the opportunity to do.

Runningbear
 
Quote from Runningbear:

The saying "money can't buy happiness" was a term invented to make poor people feel good about themselves:p

My view is completely subjective, but I've been really broke before and pretty well off before and all I can say is this - when you can't afford to pay to have the holes in your teeth fixed or buy the people you love even a small gift at Xmas, then life is pretty shit. When you're thousands in debt and you know that within a few weeks you're probably going to be bankrupt, have your credit rating destroyed and possibly never have another chance at a reasonable life, the stress crushes you. You lose the ability to laugh, even to smile.

The worse thing about having no money in a country where nearly everyone has it, is the personal feeling of failure that accompanies the situation. You hate your life and you hate being who you are and you regret every decision you ever made that led to the point you're at. At this point, killing yourself becomes a real option.

Maybe money can't buy happiness, but it can buy freedom, comfort, first class medical and dental, high quality food, and a plane ticket to a warm beach when you feel you need to get away from it all.

Runningbear


:confused: To think some would give their left nut to be in ur shoes..........peace
 
Quote from zboy2854A:

I think it's important to have some perspective here. The fact that all of us here are typing on this board means that we all have a computer. Here's another fact. If you have any money at all in your wallet and any kind of bank account regardless of how much is in there, you are among the wealthiest 8% of the Earth's population. Now, really stop and think about that for a second. Then think about the Rwandan man who had his foot sawed off with a dull knife in a Rwandan court because he was caught stealing a loaf of bread to feed his family. Compare our pursuit and questioning of happiness and wealth with a large portion of the planet that lives in apathy and utterly without hope.

We here in America and other wealthy countries often measure our happiness relative to a very narrow vision of what we see around us, rather than the actual reality in the larger sense. We look at the rare .001% of the U.S. population, i.e. the moguls, CEO's, celebrities, etc., and we compare our lot to THAT??? All of us here, by virtue of the simple fact that we have the leisure time to post our rants and chatter here, are at the upper end of human existence, and by all rights should be on balance among the happiest people on Earth. It sometimes may be hard to see that when trying to figure out how to pay the mortgage, etc, and surely it leads to stress, but relative to people in the world who actually live in such apathy that death would be a welcome respite, it's really not so bad.

Would I like a bigger house, a new car, and to not worry about the monthly household budget? Sure. But damned if I'm not grateful, thankful and happy for everything I have right now.


BTW, this post not directed at anyone in particular, just some observations.

Great post.....
 
I am a person that had it all only to give it back. It worked out well for me. I was way to young to have what I did and I abused the privledge. During the time that I was broke I was really able to find my element and as things come along and get better, I have really been able to respect my refound glory so to say.

As for money buying happiness well, I can only agree. You can put your kids in the best schools, make renovations around your life to make things easier on every day life and the ladies well you can take your pick from the best. When I was broke it was my ego that took the biggest hit, but sometimes you have to take 50 steps backwords b4 you can move forward.

Comp
 
Having money buys a more comfortable lifestyle than being poor, not necessarily happier. Happiness comes from within, otherwise it can only be superficial, as it's imposed by circumstances outside you and therefore, fleeting in nature.

For some people, money makes them nastier, like a mean drunk. Others, because the rat race pressure is lifted, become nicer.

But being wealthy is not a panacea. You do exchange one set of problems for another, although one can argue that if you're going to have problems, might as well be the latter and not the former situation.

Money doesn't shield you or comfort you from life's tragedies or downturns, impelling reason why, again, happiness has to come from within.
 
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