MJ, the greatest ever....

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OK...stop taking drugs....I agree with you but you and optional go into EXTREMES to prove your point....Jason Kidd better then Magic??? Im sorry, when was the last time jason Started at center in the pivotal final game and won? also sir charles would EAT up these young guns right now because he is so physical...why do you think SHAQ is so dominant? Nobody has the true heart to step in his way.....on the other hand....EWING as one of the greatest shot blockers???? Im a knick fan but Ewing stopped playing D when Pitino arrived...and lambier??? Nice tough complimentary player but c'mon...
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ok, i wont stop taking drugs but........:D ......... ,

1)jason kidd is an assist king ! and has a great shot !!
magic couldnt shoot for shit !! when we talk about individuals you cant talk about championships. alot of great players have never won a championship. i just think they are in the same league.

2)sir charles-- no way !! all he had was a spot up and post up.
have u ever seen him try to dribble ? lol -- thats funny . todays players would shake him up ! big men drive to the goal and make moves these days!

3) ewing-- youre a knick fan so i wont bother arguing.

4) lambier - ???? come on
 
Lambier:

What people don't understand is that Lambier would have hacked the hell out of Kobe.

Jordan had to put up with tremendous physical punishment when he went to the hoop when he played Detroit and the bad boys. That was back in the days before Jordan got extreme preferential treatment, like is currently given to Kobe.

Lambier, and Rodman kicked the shit out of most folks in their prime during Detroit's run. Jordan proved to them, and the league how physically and mentally tough he was when he took down the Bad Boys.

Kobe gets essentially a free pass, as people live in fear of retribution by Shaq, and the refs.
 
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BIRD = jordan wasn't better than bird when they played each other( that's why Bird referred to him as God in sneakers and the best basketball player in the world...he then said SHAq was the nest best and at the time shaq was still in lsu)

MCHALE= lol lol --- much better in the league right now than him
( Like who for all around ability? He rebounded, blocked shots scored and he only played about 30 minutes a game off the bench)
LAMBIER= LOL LOL you cant be serious !!

SIR CHARLES= much better in league right now
( He would eat up all these kids..)
EWING= much better in league right now
( very true...SHAQ, and ...Shaq....name another center?)
MALONE= LOL LOL your kidding again right ?
( he's still eating up these kids at 40!)
GLOVE= he's ok, nothing great

HAKEEM= one of the better big men, nothing on duncan !
( this is a dumb statement....he is the most athletic center to ever play the game)
ROBINSON = lol lol another joke ??
( a little overrated)
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ok, the only one i will take back is hakeem. although duncan is close.

and bird doesnt brag. he wouldnt say he is better.

and i do think jordan said he is passing on the throne. (referring to kobe) passing it on to a 23 yr old !
no need to pass it, it was taken
 
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ok, i wont stop taking drugs but........:D ......... ,

1)jason kidd is an assist king ! and has a great shot !!
magic couldnt shoot for shit !! when we talk about individuals you cant talk about championships. alot of great players have never won a championship. i just think they are in the same league.

2)sir charles-- no way !! all he had was a spot up and post up.
have u ever seen him try to dribble ? lol -- thats funny . todays players would shake him up ! big men drive to the goal and make moves these days!

3) ewing-- youre a knick fan so i wont bother arguing.

4) lambier - ???? come on
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You prove your basketball IQ in single digits when you even try to rate Jason Kidd superior to Magic.
 
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Lambier:

What people don't understand is that Lambier would have hacked the hell out of Kobe.

Jordan had to put up with tremendous physical punishment when he went to the hoop when he played Detroit and the bad boys. That was back in the days before Jordan got extreme preferential treatment, like is currently given to Kobe.

Lambier, and Rodman kicked the shit out of most folks in their prime during Detroit's run. Jordan proved to them, and the league how physically and mentally tough he was when he took down the Bad Boys.

Kobe gets essentially a free pass, as people live in fear of retribution by Shaq, and the refs.
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no one gets beaten around or has ever gotten beat around like iverson !


optional777, a serious question...... how old are u ?

i think our age may be the reason for our different views
 
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no one gets beaten around or has ever gotten beat around like iverson !


optional777, a serious question...... how old are u ?

i think our age may be the reason for our different views
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Iverson is one tough player, could have played in any era.

Age has nothing to do with understanding hoops.
 
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You prove your basketball IQ in single digits when you even try to rate Jason Kidd superior to Magic.
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he's better all around. magic was a passer ONLY !
 
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Age has nothing to do with understanding hoops.
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not saying that, but i think you like the older player more than u like the newer players. so does my dad
 
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he's better all around. magic was a passer ONLY !
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Ok ...You know nothing about basketball....seriously...you either are 12 and never saw him play or your a NJ fan....Magic hit so many clutch shots to WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS...not games in cleveland...BTW...Look up the career scoring avg of Kidd and Magic...
 
Led Los Angeles Lakers to five NBA Championships (1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988)
Los Angeles Lakers franchise all-time assists leader with 10,141 and all-time steals leader with 1,724
Named NBA MVP three times (1987, 1989, 1990)
Awarded IBM Award for all-around contributions to team's success (1994)
All-NBA First Team nine times (1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991) and Second Team once (1982)
NBA All-Rookie Team (1982)
J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award (1992)
Selected first overall in 1979 NBA Draft
Led NBA with 3.43 steals per game (1981) and 2.67 steals per game (1982)
Holds career record for highest assists per game average with 11.2
Shares career record for most consecutive seasons leading league in steals with 2
NBA Finals MVP three times (1980, 1982, 1987)
Holds career playoff record for most assists (2,346)
Holds NBA Finals single-series record for highest assist per game average with 14.0 in 1985; and highest assists per game average by a rookie with 8.7 in 1980
Holds NBA Finals single-game records for most points by a rookie with 42 on May 6, 1980 vs. Philadelphia; and most assists in one half with 14 on June 19, 1988 vs. Detroit
Shares NBA Finals single-game record for most assists in one quarter with 8 (he did in four times)
Holds single-series playoff record for highest assists per game average with 17.0 in 1985
Shares single-game playoff records for most free throws made in one half with 19 on May 8, 1991 vs. Golden State; most assists with 24 on May 15, 1984 vs. Phoenix; and most assists in one half with 15 on May 3, 1985 vs. Portland
NBA All-Star twelve times (1980, 1982-1992)
NBA All-Star MVP twice (1990, 1992)
NBA All-Star-Holds career record for most assists with 127; holds career record for most three-point field goals made with 10; and hold single game record for most assists with 22 (1984, OT)
Broadcaster, NBC Sports (1992 through 1994)
Vice President, Los Angeles Lakers (1994-95 to present)
Named one of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA history (1996)

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Jason is avg. 14.8 ppg for his career...nice stats...but not magical
 
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