MJ, the greatest ever....

That is the common thread whether or not we wish to state it. And the change has not been for the better. The remarkable double dribbles that pass as fantastic skills. The lousy attitudes and laughable skills. When I think awesome memories I think of The Dr., Oscar Robertson, Earl Monroe, Bing, DeBusher, West, Unsel, Love, Walker, Hawkins, Berry, Hondo, Frazier, the list goes on. The game was different then. The attitude was different, the fans were different.

Kobe needs to mature more. The league needs to leave the high schools kids to grow. Mentally and otherwise. We have all been treated to some stellar competitions and players over the years. I count my blessings to have been able to even toe the line with some. For me, today's group of NBA brats are not really worthy of much more than a yawn in comparison. :)
 
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Watching Kobe score 40+ points in a losing cause when the Lakers are Shaq-less bring to mind MJ's similar scoring feats in the years prior to their first championship.

Hmm, depends on who he did it against. Mike's feats were accomplished night in and night out against the best. All while being double (and sometimes triple) teamed. Many nights while even battling the flu or some other illness. Kobe loses out in the comparison when you call for clutch points too. Game on the line seconds to go, the Lakers are going through Shaq hoping Kobe can create. I've seen him come up short too many times.

In Mike's case, we knew, the opposition knew, hell the cars in the parking lot knew who was taking the last shot. And yet through it all, he still scored. The Glove (Payton), one of the top defenders in the league, has defended against them both. Ask him which one he'd rather have to defend against in the last seconds. :)
 
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Hmm, depends on who he did it against. Mike's feats were accomplished night in and night out against the best. All while being double (and sometimes triple) teamed. Many nights while even battling the flu or some other illness. Kobe loses out in the comparison when you call for clutch points too. Game on the line seconds to go, the Lakers are going through Shaq hoping Kobe can create. I've seen him come up short too many times.

In Mike's case, we knew, the opposition knew, hell the cars in the parking lot knew who was taking the last shot. And yet through it all, he still scored. The Glove (Payton), one of the top defenders in the league, has defended against them both. Ask him which one he'd rather have to defend against in the last seconds. :)

If the "glove" don't fit, you know MJ is IT!!!

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Quote from daniel_m:

commentary from the rose-colored glasses brigade...

Actually, the current incarnation of the Chicago Bulls are the ones suffering through "Rose-colored" passes.


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Quote from OPTIONAL777:


Actually, the current incarnation of the Chicago Bulls are the ones suffering through "Rose-colored" passes.
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I'd be happy to trade him, but management won't let me. :)
 
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I seriously beg to differ. I have had the thrill of being on the court with His Airness. Both in his prime and just last year. As a Chicagoan, I am still sniffing at his departure. We the fans had expected to have him here forever and a day. Our current crop of tragic jesters known as the Bulls just makes me wince. I haven't been to a game for support since Mike's dismissal. He's due in town in a few days and I look forward to his teasing and dinner.

It's not about the current youngsters being lousy, that's just how much further above them he is. His work ethic is unmatched anywhere in the league. And he still desires the win. To achieve it, he puts in the time in practice staying at his best. He works just as hard then as he does in the actual game. Yes, the step is a bit slower but the mind is even more cunning. There is nothing to be ashamed of if it IS talent that beats you nightly.

The laugh tragedy is when a Karl Malone takes you to task. The prime is definitely gone there. That steak is truly well done! :)
Jordan leaving Chicago rates as _THE_ saddest and most insanely stupid thing in Chicago sports history.

Living about 9 miles from United Center, I have been to UC and watched Jordan on TV more times than I can count.

My favorite game of all time is the game vs the Cavs on a Friday night - I think it was 1989-90. This was before the bulls had won their first of 6. The bulls were down like 26 points at the half and had been dragging their feet the whole evening. I remember being exhausted from the work week, and it "felt" like the whole place was the same, players too...

It was astonishing what happened next. A few of us got a second wind and started getting pissed at what we were seeing and started chanting "defesense, defense, defense." Michael and Pippen woke up and made a couple of incredible defensive plays. From then on, the the ENTIRE United Center went nuts ON EVERY PLAY FOR WHAT SEEMED LIKE TWO HOURS.

The bulls went on to win that game. I was horse for three days straight and my ears were ringing for what seemed like a day. From that day forward, the bulls had a confidence I had never seen in them. They realized just how good they were, and they became a unit unlike I had never seen before.

In trading like in basketball, you have to learn not to lose before you can win.

"Dea..fense... dea..fense... dea...fense."

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2/1/03
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Michael Jordan's season-high 45 points alone weren't enough. He needed help, and he finally got it in the fourth quarter.

With starters Jerry Stackhouse and Larry Hughes injured, Jordan carried the Washington Wizards on his shoulders from the opening whistle and rested just four minutes in Saturday night's 109-104 victory over the New Orleans Hornets.

"With two key starters out, I had to step my game up early -- just to get some momentum," Jordan said. "My offense ignited everything energy-wise, and the guys fed off me. I was going to try to pull anybody along with me as much as I could.

"In the second half, things changed. The first half was me; the second half was everybody."

Jordan, who turns 40 this month, was 18-for-33 from the field, 9-for-10 from the free-throw line. His 44 minutes were his most in regulation this season and second only to the 53 he played in a double-overtime game against Indiana. The only time he sat was a four-minute stretch in the second quarter -- the Hornets went on a 14-4 to take their first lead.



Nearly 40 years old....played 44 minutes....scores 45 points....un freaking believable!!!

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