Mitt Romney Bain Capital Document Lists Him As 'Managing Member' In 2002

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Talk to the American people about it. This election is occurring during a populist time.
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My contention was that most people don't care about any of it. But I'm a bit more concerned about you specifically. The context of your posts suggests that you personally believe that he is disqualified on similar grounds. If that's your stance, I would like to hear an explanation as to how proper management of personal affairs is actually a bad thing in a presidential candidate.

If you are arguing that it's bad simply because the population can be easily convinced that it's bad, then you are essentially suggesting that the lesser qualified candidate might actually win mainly due to voter ignorance and scare tactics.

I personally just want the best man for the job. I don't really have an interest in partisan propaganda.
 
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Excuses for what Ricter?

There is nothing wrong with Bain or how they make money. Romney's problem is that he worries too much about the public's perception of him instead of just being straightforward. He made a shit load of money, legally,
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And that's the problem the public is once again all too aware of. It's legal, but it's unethical, perhaps even immoral. The golden rule, you know, "those who have the gold..." It's at a fever pitch (for America) right now. Toss in JP MC and now Libor (hello, regulatory surrender, anyone?) and a guy like Romney just looks dirty now, legal or not.
 
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If you are arguing that it's bad simply because the population can be easily convinced that it's bad, then you are essentially suggesting that the lesser qualified candidate might actually win mainly due to voter ignorance and scare tactics.
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I'm not arguing that, but your second part is interesting. The population can be so convinced, that's the point of massive campaign spending!
 
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And that's the problem the public is once again all too aware of. It's legal, but it's unethical, perhaps even immoral. The golden rule, you know, "those who have the gold..." It's at a fever pitch (for America) right now. Toss in JP MC and now Libor (hello, regulatory surrender, anyone?) and a guy like Romney just looks dirty now, legal or not.
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The ironic thing here is that Romney is perhaps the most squeaky clean candidate that we have seen in our lifetimes.

You are again suggesting that the better man for the job might actually lose simply because of scare tactics and ignorance. Is that really the preferred outcome?
 
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And that's the problem the public is once again all too aware of. It's legal, but it's unethical, perhaps even immoral. The golden rule, you know, "those who have the gold..." It's at a fever pitch (for America) right now. Toss in JP MC and now Libor (hello, regulatory surrender, anyone?) and a guy like Romney just looks dirty now, legal or not.
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unethical and immoral are subjective feelings.. the law is not. now I know, and you know, and everyone else knows that the law isn't perfect and just because something is legal doesn't make it right. But I can't see the problem here, these companies came to terms with Bain, there were in trouble. Bain turned some around and others failed. What is the problem? Obviously the former employees of the failures are bitter, but if they worked at a company that made it they would have a much better opinion of Bain, wouldn't they?
 
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The ironic thing here is that Romney is perhaps the most squeaky clean candidate that we have seen in our lifetimes.

You are again suggesting that the better man for the job might actually lose simply because of scare tactics and ignorance. Is that really the preferred outcome?
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It is ironic, isn't it? Ironies, contradictions, lies are just what you get when a society's inequality reaches a certain level and the system becomes widely viewed as rigged.
 
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It is ironic, isn't it? Ironies, contradictions, lies are just what you get when a society's inequality reaches a certain level and the system becomes widely viewed as rigged.
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I agree with some of what you are suggesting. But, I refuse to vote against a candidate based on such nonsense. And I also refuse to sit by while propaganda like this is passed around. My personal conviction is to support whomever I believe is correct on any particular issue, and always support a candidate based on the actual merits of the candidate.

If the public were to pass on Romney because of this Bain nonsense or the dog on the car... Or pass on Obama based on the birther nonsense, I view that as completely unacceptable. Vote for (or against) someone based on the merits and qualifications of that individual.

If you are intelligent enough to follow the details of a political campaign, then you are intelligent enough to sift through nonsense like this. There are plenty of people whom are either not versed enough or lack the necessary spare time to sift through this stuff objectively. I personally think that those of us with the required time and background have a responsibility to denounce the nonsense and help refocus on more pertinent topics.

It is disappointing when I see otherwise intelligent people grab onto partisan propaganda and spread it simply because it might be harmful to their opponent.
 
And that's the problem the public is once again all too aware of. It's legal, but it's unethical, perhaps even immoral. The golden rule, you know, "those who have the gold..." It's at a fever pitch (for America) right now. Toss in JP MC and now Libor (hello, regulatory surrender, anyone?) and a guy like Romney just looks dirty now, legal or not.
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and you are the arbiter what is immoral aren't you?
 
I agree with some of what you are suggesting. But, I refuse to vote against a candidate based on such nonsense. And I also refuse to sit by while propaganda like this is passed around. My personal conviction is to support whomever I believe is correct on any particular issue, and always support a candidate based on the actual merits of the candidate.

If the public were to pass on Romney because of this Bain nonsense or the dog on the car... Or pass on Obama based on the birther nonsense, I view that as completely unacceptable. Vote for (or against) someone based on the merits and qualifications of that individual.

If you are intelligent enough to follow the details of a political campaign, then you are intelligent enough to sift through nonsense like this. There are plenty of people whom are either not versed enough or lack the necessary spare time to sift through this stuff objectively. I personally think that those of us with the required time and background have a responsibility to denounce the nonsense and help refocus on more pertinent topics.

It is disappointing when I see otherwise intelligent people grab onto partisan propaganda and spread it simply because it might be harmful to their opponent.
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Oh how I remember democrats howling that bringing up things like Hillary's commodities trading during Bill's campaign was so irrelevent. Democrats kept saying 'let's stick to today's issues in front of us'. You have to remember there are no rules and these people have no principles other than devotion to their religion of socialist-multiculturalism.

Heard genius Obama's latest on Charlie Rose?

"When I ran everybody asked, well he can give a good speech, but can he actually manage the job? And in my first two years, I think the notion was, he's been juggling and managing a lot of stuff, but where's the story that tells us where he's going?"
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_...ct-to-obamas-comments-on-his-biggest-mistake/

The guy really believes he doesn't tell enough stories. He really thinks his policies are just right, and he was so busy into policy he didn't even read his own health care bill.

Highly relevent, very shitty leadership, do americans care?

Also in that same interview he says he regrets partisanship and bickering yet he brings up Bain... do people understand this sort of deceit? I doubt it.
 
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