Missiles Flying!

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An "underwater test-fire of a strategic submarine ballistic missile" conducted at an undisclosed location in North Korea.



Japan only has minutes to run for cover if North Korea fires nukes

By David K. Li

April 25, 2017

http://nypost.com/2017/04/25/japan-only-has-minutes-to-run-for-cover-if-north-korea-fires-nukes/

Japan might have only minutes to prepare for nuclear attacks, said officials in the island nation as they face down threats from demented North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un.

Tokyo is asking for all its regional governments to sharpen alert plans should Pyongyang’s tubby tyrant press the button and send nukes flying over the Sea of Japan.

Officials in Tokyo — Japan’s largest city with 13.5 million citizens — said their residents might have as little as 10 minutes to act.

And even more concerning, Osaka Mayor Hirofumi Yoshimura said the 2.6 million residents of Japan’s third-largest city might have as little as four minutes to run for their lives and take shelter.
 

Trump administration seeks to pressure North Korea into giving up nukes

David Jackson , USA TODAY Published 5:30 p.m. ET April 26, 2017

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...lerson-joseph-dunford-james-mattis/100948012/

WASHINGTON – After briefing senators during an unusual meeting at the White House, members of President Trump's national security team said they are trying to coerce North Korea into giving up its nuclear weapons program by cutting off foreign money they need to finance it.

"The president’s approach aims to pressure North Korea into dismantling its nuclear, ballistic missile, and proliferation programs by tightening economic sanctions and pursuing diplomatic measures with our allies and regional partners," said a statement from Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Defense Secretary James Mattis, and Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats.

Those three officials and Gen. Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, briefed senators on the progress North Korea has made in developing nuclear weapons and missiles that could conceivably carry them to west coast of the United States.

The entire U.S. Senate was invited to the briefing held on White House grounds.

"It was a sobering briefing," said Sen. Chris Coons, D-Del., speaking with reporters after Wednesday's session.

Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., added, “it was a thorough and helpful briefing. I was impressed by the seriousness of the problem and by the sober and analytical approach the administration is taking toward dealing with the problem.”

National security officials also said they have not taken the military option off the table, but declined to discuss those options.

In their statement, Tillerson, Mattis, and Coats said the U.S. "seeks stability and the peaceful denuclearization of the Korean peninsula. We remain open to negotiations towards that goal. However, we remain prepared to defend ourselves and our allies."

Administration officials said they planned to discuss the full range of the North Korean threat, and what the United States is trying to do to meet it.

That includes urging China and other countries to withhold economic assistance to Kim Jong-Un's government. One national security official noted that almost the entire North Korean nuclear program, from tires to the missiles themselves, comes from foreign material and technology.

While officials said the Senate organized the briefing, the setting in the Eisenhower Old Executive Office Building, just steps from the Oval Office, enabled Trump himself to walk over and speak to the assembly.

As the senators met with the administration, a small crowd across the street from the White House chanted against the potential prospect of armed conflict.

"One-two-three-four, we don't want your stupid war!" they said. "Five-six-seven-eight, time for peace, negotiate!"
 
Only the very first signal/command is important. Once started, then non-stop, the rest would be WW3!


The biggest factor in the conflict would be intervention from Russia or China.

NK is only tough on paper. But deploying their weapons in combat is a lot different than doing it in a training environment.

NK has not been at war since 1953. The U.S has been in a constant state of war since
7 December 1941. And we have been engaged in multiple conflicts since 9-11 2001.

NK looks good on paper. But when you probe deeper they are a joke.

They have 5000 tanks, but many of them are T-62's from Russia that were introduced in 1961.

They have 900 aircraft but their inventory includes a MIG-9 from the first Korean War, a bi-plane and numerous MIGS (19 and 21) that are 30 plus years old. .

They have 75 submarines.... but 50 or so...were bought from Russia about 10 years ago. Russia (USSR) mothballed them in 1962.......no, that's not a typo.......because they were obsolete. I guess they were maintaining them for a national emergency and only a moron like Kim Jung Un would buy them.

They have a mandatory military service but much of their time is spent farming and building roads. Their soldiers are under-trained, undernourished, undersized and lack the motivation of an all volunteer force like the U.S.

And when they return home from their service, they have to live with the fear that they don't piss anyone off so they don't get sent to one of their re-education camps.


But, I don't think it will get that far. Kim Jung Un has pissed off a lot of people. Russia, China Japan and South Korea. I think his days are limited. Someone in NK or our govt. will ensure his life ends prematurely.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_experimentation_in_North_Korea

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoeryong_concentration_camp

 
The US now would have to know/trace where the North Korea's Subs, that could be used for planting sleeping mines, are every day - without sleeping!

The mines (hopefully not nukes) once planted could be anywhere reasonably near/close to the US' coastline.



https://elitetrader.com/et/threads/...ike-u-s-aircraft-carrier.308897/#post-4447178
Trust me.... we know where their subs are. Every damn one of the things. They're probably loud as fuck too... but even that matters not. We are the best at ASW.....60 years experience playing cat and mouse with the Ruskies. And we have mine sweeping helos with technologies so powerful they can find a floating can of tuna-fish 12 feet under water.
 
Trust me.... we know where their subs are. Every damn one of the things. They're probably loud as fuck too... but even that matters not. We are the best at ASW.....60 years experience playing cat and mouse with the Ruskies. And we have mine sweeping helos with technologies so powerful they can find a floating can of tuna-fish 12 feet under water.

They got the upper hand in November though
 
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Photo: It is believed North Korea could fire 500,000 rounds of artillery on Seoul in the first hour of a conflict.



North Korea anything but 'unpredictable' as US threatens to engage

By Stan Grant

Updated April 18, 2017

According to various estimates, it has a stockpile of at least 10 and perhaps as many as 20 nuclear weapons. What it needs is the capacity to deliver them. It is working on that, developing missiles that could reach Australia or the continental United States.

None of that is unpredictable. It is calculated and it is aimed at one thing — regime survival.

Victor Cha, long-time North Korea watcher, American academic and author of The Impossible State: North Korea, Past and Future, once revealed that in nuclear negotiations with the United States and other parties in 2005, a Pyongyang envoy candidly said:

"The reason you attacked Afghanistan is because they don't have nukes. And look at what happened to Libya. That is why we will never give up ours."


This was a telling glimpse into the mind of a country that believes it is under siege.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-14/nothing-unpredictable-about-dangerous-north-korea/8444778

I recall visiting Pyongyang and witnessing the displays of military might, goose-stepping soldiers and row after row of weapons. They told me that they would fight to the last against America, bragging that their young leader, Kim Jong-un, would deliver them victory.

This isn't just paranoia and propaganda, North Korea already has the capacity right now to threaten South Korea and Japan.

Mr Cha has said the North could fire as many as 500,000 rounds of artillery on Seoul within the first hour of a conflict.
 
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Photo: It is believed North Korea could fire 500,000 rounds of artillery on Seoul in the first hour of a conflict.

Yeah, perhaps. But this omits the rather relevant fact of what we could do to them the moment they started firing. It is unlikely they'd get 10 minutes into a firing sequence, let alone a full hour. More scaremongering.

The real threat from this issue is two possibilities. One remote, one having a bit more potential.

The remote one is that NK actually gets a fully functioning, nuclear payload on a ballistic missile that works, evades all defensive measures and makes it to the West Coast of the United States and detonates exactly as intended. Very, very unlikely.

The more possible one, and much more dangerous one, is what other nuclear powers in the region do once a potential nuclear incident is on the table in real time. That is what worries me.
 

Yes, chemical is a possibility. But you can bet we know precisely where this stuff is (assuming it is there at all), and will hit it the moment the engagement begins. There is a firing solution on dozens/hundreds of potential targets right now just waiting for a green light.

NK is not a threat to the United States. It could be to SK, but not to us. The only thing that would allow a threat to the US would be US military incompetence. Not a good bet to make.
 

Trump: South Korea should pay for $1B missile defense system

by Alec Macfarlane and Taehoon Lee @CNNMoney April 28, 2017

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/28/news/trump-south-korea-thaad-trade/

President Trump wants South Korea to foot the bill for a $1 billion U.S. missile defense system and is threatening to kill the free trade deal between the two countries.

His comments aren't sitting well with officials in South Korea, a key American ally in Asia. One foreign policy expert called the remarks "shameless."

"I informed South Korea it would be appropriate if they pay," Trump said in an interview with Reuters on Thursday. "That's a billion dollar system."

He was talking about the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system, which is being deployed in South Korea in an effort to reduce the threat from North Korean missiles.
 
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