Miss California Assailed By Gays For Defending Marriage
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I think the whole affair is unfortunate. But it is what it is. The contestant is entirely entitled to her opinion and the expression of it, as are the judges who judge her responses. If you don't like the judging standards, then organize your own contest. I think she's incredibly good looking, but when she invoked biblical interpretation I just saw her as a drone. I saw someone who didn't quite view all other people as her equals. I saw a sense of superiority and entitlement, "no offense" notwithstanding. Such a waste...
Why do we have female sideline reporters and commentators at NFL games?
They never played the game, so how could they judge it?
They never played the game, so how could they judge it?
I don't really have a dog in this race, but this is BS from judge Alicia Jacobs.
<i> To be fair, the beginning of Prejean's answer was okâ¦but, she made the mistake of not knowing when to shut her mouth. As she continued to speak, I saw the crown move further & further away from her. When she finished, she looked strangely proud for a moment. Personally, I was STUNNED on several levels. First, how could this young woman NOT know her audience and judges? Let's not forget that the person asking the question is an openly gay man, at least 2 people on the judges panel are openly gay. Another judge has a sister in a gay marriage. Her very own state pageant director, KEITH LEWIS is an openly gay man who has been a very generous benefactor of hersâ¦in many ways. Did I mention I was STUNNED? I was also personally insulted & hurt. </i>
So what Jacobs is saying that because of her audience she should have lied. She should have adjusted her answer to fit the circumstance?
I actually don't agree with Prejean, I'm a conservative who doesn't understand how allowing two gay men or woman to express their love for each other has any effect on my wife and I doing the same. How is our marriage hurt? or anyone else either?
Anyway I do have a lot of respect though for Prejean for having the courage to stand up for what she believes, knowing it would likely not be a popular answer, certainly not with the man who was asking it, and most likely not with the other judges either. She took a stand on what she believes in, and it's too bad that more American's are not willing to do that.
Lee
<i> To be fair, the beginning of Prejean's answer was okâ¦but, she made the mistake of not knowing when to shut her mouth. As she continued to speak, I saw the crown move further & further away from her. When she finished, she looked strangely proud for a moment. Personally, I was STUNNED on several levels. First, how could this young woman NOT know her audience and judges? Let's not forget that the person asking the question is an openly gay man, at least 2 people on the judges panel are openly gay. Another judge has a sister in a gay marriage. Her very own state pageant director, KEITH LEWIS is an openly gay man who has been a very generous benefactor of hersâ¦in many ways. Did I mention I was STUNNED? I was also personally insulted & hurt. </i>
So what Jacobs is saying that because of her audience she should have lied. She should have adjusted her answer to fit the circumstance?
I actually don't agree with Prejean, I'm a conservative who doesn't understand how allowing two gay men or woman to express their love for each other has any effect on my wife and I doing the same. How is our marriage hurt? or anyone else either?
Anyway I do have a lot of respect though for Prejean for having the courage to stand up for what she believes, knowing it would likely not be a popular answer, certainly not with the man who was asking it, and most likely not with the other judges either. She took a stand on what she believes in, and it's too bad that more American's are not willing to do that.
Lee
Is a bigot courageous because they speak their mind?
Gays everywhere.
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Agreed.
And thank you about the link.
I doubt that many here ( the usual morons ) even read through the hypothetical example of how contracts wouldn't necessarily "solve" the issue from an equality sense in regards to same-sex marraige. For them, they already have their minds made up and aren't interested in examining the real facts.
In any event, the link is certainly a good read and instructive in highlighting the fact that heterosexual couples that spend a mere $20 for their marraige "contract" are way ahead of the game when it comes to dealing with financial assets.
In fact, nothing beats the contract of marriage when it comes to taxation and the distribution of assets.
It's not even close.
Does anyone want to post facts.
for instance - does anyone want to prove that civil union in California does not confer the same rights with respect to financial assets.
I have read the opinion of the CA supreme court and I have been subjected to continuing education of the bar on this and I have not seen one person make that argument and I have seen some pretty leftist lawyers advancing the pro gay marriage side.
Not necessarily. The Q & A segment of such contests is clearly an exercise in thinking on one's feet and diplomacy. Pushing biblical interpretation into someone's face is neither, particularly when she knew the layout of the minefield. Providing that she believed it, perhaps she could have said that she believed all people were created equal (possibly adding that societal standards should reflect that equality in all its forms). Instead, she went biblical and got what she got. The "courage" portion of one's convictions is all about dealing with the outcome of such convictions. And here it is.
I don't have a problem with her losing because of what she said. Everything we say and do has an outcome to it. None of us are immune from the laws of cause and effect. I do have a problem with the idea that she should have rejected her own beliefs or lied simply to please the judges.
I find it regretful that the ones shouting the loudest for tolerance are the least tolerant of all.
Lee