Mind Control 101 – Trading cults in ET

Quote from maxpi:

I worked with a really creepy, I mean really creepy, guy a few years back. He did the mind control thingy. The boss would ask him to train somebody on something and when he got done with the incredibly boring and penetrating "training" the person was afraid to touch anything related. He wanted control of everything in the lab and would use mind control at every opportunity... eventually I just sat back and let him do all the work, and he was not into finishing anything, just control, least productive person I've ever, ever witnessed. They took him all the way to the top personell people trying to get rid of him and he did the mind control thingy there too, he's probably there some three years after he ran out all the talent... I just could not stand the guy, he wasn't human... but it was obvious he was going to win the war and I wanted to change careers... How they figure out how to do that stuff I don't know, I never wanted to learn what he did. He was a brain nutrition starved vegan though, he'd been a vegan in his teenage years and that is known to retard brain development at that stage of life... he probably was Autistic or Asperger's for sure, he seemed more Aspergerish than out and out Autistic.. I've been around both... hard to take...

I put JH on ignore just to preserve my sanity, my head swims and I feel like I'm circling the drain when I read that stuff.. it's weird... NLP is an outgrowth of hypnosis, talk about mind control... he can write perfectly well, I've seen something written "in the clear" by the guy, it was fine...

I tried to cut through the bullshit and figure out what he was talking about, the channels are very weak tools imo. FTT is interesting but in other contexts it is not needed, PRV is useful but also a weak tool and prone to leading to overtrading... whatever, he has an assemblage of weak tools...

We need a contest here on ET with all the schools being touted here in play....

I did get a book on NLP, NLP for Dummies, the whole subject is not very complex actually. A funny thing, it points out that the subconscious does not understand negatives so when some assclown on ET says "YOU GUYS CANT TRADE" the reader's subconscious sees it as "you guys can trade"... Mind controllers understand that so they work around it and convince you that you can't trade without their inspired knowledge, they never tell you can't trade.. well Jack has said that people that don't analyze volume will never make money and I'm down with that.. he's said that people that get punished by losing too much will never make it. that's possible I suppose...
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You sight an area I am well aware of in mind control. I spent 20 years managing before I retired to trade full time. Here are ways a boss performs mind control the same as they would on ET:
- Hire people (I’m not referring to you) who are underqualified for their positions and then overpay them so it would be difficult for them to find a comparable job elsewhere.
- Hire people who are compliant and not likely to challenge your authority.
- Keep a tight leash on your staff and limit their exposure to outside conferences, professional organizations and other forms of continuous education.
- Limit their activities within the organization
- Make all the important decisions yourself and make this well known
- Discourage independent action by limiting the scope of your employees' jobs
- Insist on ironclad loyalty or they get fired
- Keep expenses extremely low
- Spread negative stories about anyone who challenges your authority
- Try to catch people making mistakes to demonstrate your superiority.

People in this type of an organization feel they are locked in cages even when the door is open. They don’t trust it to even come out of their cubicles. Its sad but I’m not describing dogs. These are people.

Today’s business environment is the type that these mind control bosses become megalomaniacs. These people who worked for this overcontrolling, vindictive boss today will become basket cases if they do not find a release mechanism. I have seen these SOBs in action and it tore my insides out dealing with these creeps (because I could not take the kind of action I really wanted to take).
 
Quote from jack hershey:


For most people who have planted themselves firmly at the bottom of the spectrum of what is possible, they cannot see or believe any of this has really happened or is happening. It, in fact for them, cannot be proven by any evidentury process. As we all know, some people phish to be able to reverse engineeer. Usually the knowledgable and successful trader does not comply with these phishing requests (See teasing tara for the blatant level of phishing on behalf of her partner).
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Thanks for the laugh Jack, I've missed your wacky logic.

So my ex. wants to reverse engineer SCT?

Here's what I had already posted on Why do "profitable" traders take the time to train people remotely and for a fee?...

04-24-09 05:47 AM

"My ex. taught a few traders for free. It began as occasional help to a trader that developed into a friendship that became mentoring that caught the attention of some others who asked to be included.

Why did he do it? It just kind of snowballed and he still has daily contact with the guys to see how they are doing.

Sometimes they meet up on a private forum for live trading together but he says he wouldn't do it again as it's too time consuming.

It's fine now as the guys are at a very high level of proficiency and a losing day is a shocker, but the time and effort was a one-off for him.

He did it for the fun of watching losing or just above B/e traders become hot traders and now it's more of a friendship thing.

He says part of his motivation was watching Jack Hershey make trading such a mysterious fog of confusion rather than a fast track to big profits.

He honestly believes Jack can't trade so he decided to take a small group and see how fast he could do it.

People learn fast when you show them exactly what to do. The more precision you claim to have, the more exactness there is in the technique and that is what makes for a very efficient learning curve.

Jack threads exhibit the exact opposite."


Reverse engineer SCT - that's one of your funniest Jack. Great to see you're back to your usual standard :)
 
I recently used the IGNORE feature on a foul-mouthed troll here on ET.

I RECOMMEND THE IGNORE FEATURE!

It works great & makes this site more of a joy to peruse / contribute to.

Happy trading all.
 
Rabbitone


I thought about this last night (about this topic) that I would like to share please


My mind is the most precious tool I have

Traders – whether seasoned or newbies – must always have open minds with respect to trading

Open mind = receptiveness to all ideas, thoughts, opportunities




From a newbie’s stand point – compound that openness – with an eagerness and willingness to learn.

Their minds are much more open to anything – and very receptive to it all… (How many times have we heard a newbie say “teach me I will listen and do anything you say”)



Then you come across a jack (ass) type person – spewing NLP stuff – and with egos bigger than Texas… It’s no wonder so many get taken advantage of – and end up solely, blindly, and forever – reliant on them


AND THIS IS the one thing I completely hate about our business – mess with my mind you’re messing with the very being of who I am


I won’t use the word rape (out of respect to the lady traders) but unfortunately I can think of no better word to describe the mind games some try to impart on others


My last comment....

Rely on yourself – always – for who better will take care of YOU…….


Regards Sir
 
Quote from jack hershey:

The rough trader thread looks kinda nice too. Go to page 158708 to start getting a beginner education.
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Quote from Redneck trader:

I won’t use the word rape (out of respect to the lady traders) but unfortunately I can think of no better word to describe the mind games some try to impart or others
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Speaking of "threads" and "rapes" in the same paragraph, where the hell has Neoxx been these days. :p

Last I heard, he ended up buying a color printer, being personally tutored by Jack Hershey for weeks on end, and failing miserably.

It's no accident that his thread ended up in chit-chat, as that is where it always belonged.

SCT Boot Camp - another Jack Hershey Failure
 
Quote from jjf:

So is ET useful or just a big waste of time
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I think with non traders like Jack and Alex taken into account you really have to treat it as light entertainment.. it's a spamfest of snake oil salesmen and the few nuggets you may find here and there are not really worth the miles and miles of shit you have to crawl through to find them
 
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