Actually the UN response (or lack of thereof) to the situation in darfur (or to the situation in South Lebanon during the last 6 years) is relevant to both sides if you were to expect the UN to solve this puzzle, it's irrelevant to Z10 but that's not good enough reason to dismiss it as a strawman, is it?
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Mid-East Peace: A Viable Solution
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Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
Let me ask you a question:
If the US had the backing of the world before they went into Iraq, had the Soviets, the French, the Chinese, all of NATO, all of the UN security countil, etc. behind them, would the outcome today look different?
And only minutes ago, you were arguing that a superior force is just an antagonist, something that nobody in their right mind would succomb to.
Ned Lamont:Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
Because the US has the power and leverage to force Israel to accept it.
At this critical time in the Middle East, I believe that when Israelâs security is threatened, the United States must unambiguously stand with our ally to be sure that it is safe and secure. On this principle, Americans are united.
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All Americans want the kidnapped soldiers to be returned and this cycle of violence to end, based on the principles of U.N. Security Council Resolution 1559 of 2004, which calls for Hezbollah militias to be disbanded and disarmed, with the government of Lebanon taking full control of all of its territory. It is not for the United States to dictate to Israel how it defends itself.
http://nedlamont.com/issues/627/situation-in-the-middle-east
What THEY do impacts the rest of the world, but being fully self centered and myopic, they can't see beyond their own situation.
(the THEY includes both sides of the conflict)
(the THEY includes both sides of the conflict)
Quote from dddooo:
We're talking about their situation, not yours, we can only discuss their situation based on what's relevant to them and other parties involved, not based on what's relevant to you.
Because Israel would not subordinate themselves to the process of peace in the middle east.
No matter what anyone says, you will NEVER blame Israel, never.
To do so would be an admission of the stinky shit.
No matter what anyone says, you will NEVER blame Israel, never.
To do so would be an admission of the stinky shit.
Quote from dddooo:
So why haven't the rest of the world stopped Hezbollah attacks as they promised 6 years ago they would?
Excuse me, withdrawing from Lebanon in 2000 is not peaceful enough for you? Israel has been in compliance with the international law and UN resolutions for 6 years, Lebanon has not and the rest of the world (and the UN) did not live up to their pledge to secure the border and disband/disarm Hezbollah.Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
Because Israel would not subordinate themselves to the process of peace in the middle east.
No. Withdrawing from some occupied lands is not enough, while other lands are occupied.
Quote from dddooo:
Excuse me, withdrawing from Lebanon in 2000 is not peaceful enough for you? Israel has been in compliance with the international law and UN resolutions for 6 years, Lebanon has not and the rest of the world (and the UN) did not live up to their promises to secure the border and disband/disarm Hezbollah.