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Micro rate futures
- Thread starter Real Money
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Keep in mind these are futures priced by the yield (ATM 1.32%), not bond prices directly.I understand the micro treasury markets will begin on Sunday.
Does anyone have any idea on who are offering these and any way of finding out info on the larger contracts currently traded , such as ranges, volume etc ?
So easy to think in terms of current rates, no need to convert bond price to yield or vice versa.
Thanks for the reply.
My system currently shows 30yr futures yield at 2.111 or 163-06 futures price.
For example if the 30yr futures go from 163-06 to 163-16 will the micro yield go from selling 2.111 to 2.097 equivalent.
The other micro contracts WTI and Nasdaq are tick for tick in line with the mini contracts, will the micro yield track the yield in the futures albeit at a different price just $1 a point ?
My system currently shows 30yr futures yield at 2.111 or 163-06 futures price.
For example if the 30yr futures go from 163-06 to 163-16 will the micro yield go from selling 2.111 to 2.097 equivalent.
The other micro contracts WTI and Nasdaq are tick for tick in line with the mini contracts, will the micro yield track the yield in the futures albeit at a different price just $1 a point ?
10 Year note (1.347% just now) is the one with all the volume, so I would expect same with yield future.Thanks for the reply.
My system currently shows 30yr futures yield at 2.111 or 163-06 futures price.
For example if the 30yr futures go from 163-06 to 163-16 will the micro yield go from selling 2.111 to 2.097 equivalent.
The other micro contracts WTI and Nasdaq are tick for tick in line with the mini contracts, will the micro yield track the yield in the futures albeit at a different price just $1 a point ?
But why concern yourself with conversion. Yield goes up go long, 10y yield goes down go short.
Do you really think there is a possibility it won't?I'm not bothered by the conversion and I understand the yield system, the question was how close will the new micro yield follow the yield of the large size futures, will it match it like WTI or the indexes micro to mini or not ?
In related trading vehicles if there is any tiny variance at all it gets arbed away before most of us can even recognize it.
Obviously I did think there was a possibility it wouldn't or I wouldn't have asked a question in a very easy to understand way, which somehow you managed to misinterpret.
As it happens it appears there isn't anyone prepared to make anything tighter than a 6-8 tick spread. The arber you mentioned clearly didn't get the memo.
Very disappointing launch, still waiting for a first trade in any of the maturities and it's been open for many hours now.
As it happens it appears there isn't anyone prepared to make anything tighter than a 6-8 tick spread. The arber you mentioned clearly didn't get the memo.
Very disappointing launch, still waiting for a first trade in any of the maturities and it's been open for many hours now.