Michelle Obama's School Lunch program: 4 million dollars worth of food thrown in the trash everyday

Which brings us back to the choices we are giving our kids in the school cafeteria, and what they are likely to do with them. No one thinks most kids have the decision making power of an adult.

Yes, it brings us back to the kids. So the kids should be just fine eating the same stuff we ate as kids, so long as they get the exercise that we did. If fructose and sugar are more problematic today than in the past, then have the government go after the manufacturers on those levels, and not starving the kids in some stupid scheme to try to get them to eat more healthy. Nutrition and exercise begin at home, not at the school. The ridiculous actions of trying to restrict the options of lunch just makes kids skip lunch. Typical government bad choice.
 
It gets more difficult as we age because we become more insulin resistant as we age. Sadly, muscle tissue does this faster and more so than adipose tissue. For most folks, the more they work out they more they are going to eat. So the problem (I assume exercise has some use, but for weight control only 20%. 80% is diet) is compostion of your food. Ask any bodybuilder about bulking and cutting and what dietary variable they adjust to achieve them.


I agree on diet choices .. and it's not always easy! It does take willpower and discipline if one wants to achieve a given weight and stay there.
 
It's not new. I've actually done the atkins diet before and seen some significant results. I'm not arguing the fact that carbs make you fat, and tired, and more full. All I'm saying is that (lack of) exercise is a BIG reason why obesity rates are where they are. It's not the only reason, but it's a huge part. That's all I'm saying.

Your video on fructose was awesome. I really enjoyed it and will be passing it on to some friends and my wife. But I maintain that having a healthy balance of diet and exercise is key to maintaining sensible weight.

What I am against, however, is absolving fat people of the responsibility of their weight simply by letting them "blame manufacturers".
As the knowledge of carbs drive insulin drives fat accumulation spreads, our responsibility for fat control grows. But it was not very long ago at all that most of us were being told that eating fat causes weight gain, so we went "whole hog" on low fat (high carb) foods.
 
My mother used to joke about my “drinking problem.” But before you think I have a problem with alcohol, know that my issue had nothing to do with the wine. It was the 2-liter bottle of diet soda that I went through almost daily that she saw as a problem.

I kicked my diet soda addiction several years ago after I started paying attention to what I was putting in my body. I stopped buying anything with artificial sweeteners in it. Although I didn’t know at the time that artificial sweeteners aren’t particularly effective in achieving weight loss or can increase your chances of getting diabetes, I did know I didn’t want so many artificial foods in my family’s diet. I initially went with my gut on that decision, and now my gut has a reason to thank me.

A recent scientific study suggests that the reason artificial sweeteners may be a factor in diabetes, even though they don’t contain sugar, is because they mess with gut bacteria. Rodale News reports that scientists found that when mice drank water that contained the artificial sugar substitutes saccharin, aspartame and sucralose, the mice developed glucose intolerance — something that can be linked to type 2 diabetes and other metabolic diseases. Mice fed plain water or water with regular sugar didn’t develop the glucose intolerance.

When scientists manipulated the gut bacteria in the mice’s stomachs and killed most of it off, they found that the glucose intolerance disappeared.

Based on what they found in mice, scientists conducted a small trial on humans that measured the gut bacteria of healthy people who consumed artificial sweeteners. They found that after just one week, participants started showing glucose intolerance and their gut bacteria composition had changed.

I’m not willing to have my gut bacteria killed off so I can enjoy artificial sweeteners, and I certainly don’t want artificial sweeteners changing the gut bacteria composition that I do have. I’ve discovered how important and beneficial gut bacteria is as I’ve been learning about fermenting foods, and I want to keep my gut bacteria right where it is, doing the job it’s supposed to do.

It’s important to remember that artificial sweeteners aren’t only found in diet sodas. They can also be found in other low-calorie treats like yogurt, ice cream, bakery products and candy.

ROBIN SHREEVES
 
As the knowledge of carbs drive insulin drives fat accumulation spreads, our responsibility for fat control grows. But it was not very long ago at all that most of us were being told that eating fat causes weight gain, so we went "whole hog" on low fat (high carb) foods.

I remember that whole thing in the 70s. What I found interesting and will be researching more (from the video you posted) was the whole notion that LDLs were bad, and were causing CVD. The whole A -> B -> C argument.
 
Yes, it brings us back to the kids. So the kids should be just fine eating the same stuff we ate as kids, so long as they get the exercise that we did. If fructose and sugar are more problematic today than in the past, then have the government go after the manufacturers on those levels, and not starving the kids in some stupid scheme to try to get them to eat more healthy. Nutrition and exercise begin at home, not at the school. The ridiculous actions of trying to restrict the options of lunch just makes kids skip lunch. Typical government bad choice.
Sure, but when I was a kid in elementary you had to leave the building and head over to 7-eleven to get junk, it was not available in the cafeteria, which was cooking real food. Nowadays the junk is for sale right in the cafeteria.
 
I remember that whole thing in the 70s. What I found interesting and will be researching more (from the video you posted) was the whole notion that LDLs were bad, and were causing CVD. The whole A -> B -> C argument.
Good point. Turns out there is more than one type of LDL. : )
 
Which brings us back to the choices we are giving our kids in the school cafeteria, and what they are likely to do with them. No one thinks most kids have the decision making power of an adult.

It's more complicated ... in part it's what the parents feed them at home. Parents buy junk food because kids whine about wanting that kind of stuff.

For 3 years I went to lunch with the kids I worked with. Like the study someone posted yesterday many of these kids tossed the healthy food. I used to do simple fractions/percentages with them since they had 2 choices for main course .. something like pizza or a burger or a salad. Typically it would be 18 out of 22 choosing the non-salad main course.

On the other hand my wife has gotten kids to love kale chips, tomatoes picked off the vine, collards, lettuce and more since they are growing it in the school garden as they learn science outdoors through planting, harvesting ... that's at a different school, equally poor,
 
My mother used to joke about my “drinking problem.” But before you think I have a problem with alcohol, know that my issue had nothing to do with the wine. It was the 2-liter bottle of diet soda that I went through almost daily that she saw as a problem.

I kicked my diet soda addiction several years ago after I started paying attention to what I was putting in my body. I stopped buying anything with artificial sweeteners in it. Although I didn’t know at the time that artificial sweeteners aren’t particularly effective in achieving weight loss or can increase your chances of getting diabetes, I did know I didn’t want so many artificial foods in my family’s diet. I initially went with my gut on that decision, and now my gut has a reason to thank me.

A recent scientific study suggests that the reason artificial sweeteners may be a factor in diabetes, even though they don’t contain sugar, is because they mess with gut bacteria. Rodale News reports that scientists found that when mice drank water that contained the artificial sugar substitutes saccharin, aspartame and sucralose, the mice developed glucose intolerance — something that can be linked to type 2 diabetes and other metabolic diseases. Mice fed plain water or water with regular sugar didn’t develop the glucose intolerance.

When scientists manipulated the gut bacteria in the mice’s stomachs and killed most of it off, they found that the glucose intolerance disappeared.

Based on what they found in mice, scientists conducted a small trial on humans that measured the gut bacteria of healthy people who consumed artificial sweeteners. They found that after just one week, participants started showing glucose intolerance and their gut bacteria composition had changed.

I’m not willing to have my gut bacteria killed off so I can enjoy artificial sweeteners, and I certainly don’t want artificial sweeteners changing the gut bacteria composition that I do have. I’ve discovered how important and beneficial gut bacteria is as I’ve been learning about fermenting foods, and I want to keep my gut bacteria right where it is, doing the job it’s supposed to do.

It’s important to remember that artificial sweeteners aren’t only found in diet sodas. They can also be found in other low-calorie treats like yogurt, ice cream, bakery products and candy.

ROBIN SHREEVES
I am so glad I'm not a Coca Cola executive these days.
 
Sure, but when I was a kid in elementary you had to leave the building and head over to 7-eleven to get junk, it was not available in the cafeteria, which was cooking real food. Nowadays the junk is for sale right in the cafeteria.

Sloppy Joe is real healthy, is it? Pizza was on the menu every Friday. Hot dogs, cheeseburgers, all there for the taking. The menu wasn't all that different.
 
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