Mexicans Sending Money to their relatives IN THE UNITED STATES

Quote from 1flyfisher:

LOL
In 1994 I bought a new Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo.
Driving down a street passing a 7-11 I saw many men perhaps two dozen looking for employment around 10 am all were hispanic. I wanted to help them out, at least one of them.
I asked if any wanted work I would pay $10 per hour for a few hours work washing and waxing my jeep. $20-30 I told them as I figured it would take 2-3 hours to detail it. I offered to do half the work with one of them.
They laughed at me and said they get a minimum of $100 a day working construction doing whatever work if it is for 2 hours or 8 hours. They wanted a $100 for 2 hours work.
One older guy decided to take the deal against the scorns of his peers.
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i recieved the same respone when i had to dig out an oil tank at a property.....it was just to expose the top of it & took about 3 hours for him to do it.when he finished washing up & handed him $50 bucks,$20 above & beyond the appropriate rate of $10 bucks an hour...........he would`nt accept it as he laughed & said he needs $120 for the day,wether it`s an hour or 10 hrs...& he was serious.

I pointed to the shovel he was using & a bag of lime against the garage.....& told him he just dug his own grave if he wants to keep pressing it like he was......arrogant,rude & cocky wiseass.
after some more negotiaions,we settled on lunch for him as a concession & he still walked away pissed off.
 
He was upset because he was looking for a full day of work and not a couple of hours for $50. You have to understand that they are hired by the day and not by the hour. Whether he works 3 hours or 8 he still have to devote his day to you, get breakfast, lunch and pay for the transportation. Once he is done working for you chances of getting another gig that day are slim since most of the serious offers come in the morning.
Next time try hiring a company to do this job and I assure you a contractor would ask at least 400% more for that particular job.
 
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i recieved the same respone when i had to dig out an oil tank at a property.....it was just to expose the top of it & took about 3 hours for him to do it.when he finished washing up & handed him $50 bucks,$20 above & beyond the appropriate rate of $10 bucks an hour...........he would`nt accept it as he laughed & said he needs $120 for the day,wether it`s an hour or 10 hrs...& he was serious.

I pointed to the shovel he was using & a bag of lime against the garage.....& told him he just dug his own grave if he wants to keep pressing it like he was......arrogant,rude & cocky wiseass.
after some more negotiaions,we settled on lunch for him as a concession & he still walked away pissed off.
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I am amazed at the bravery of some of the people hiring undocumented workers and pissing them off or threatening them. I guess people do not realize how easy it is to pour liquid plumber on that shiny car or have a little bit of sugar added to your fuel tank, or have a unusual design etched on the hood with one of the Latin American soccer team's name.
BTW if you were going to be honest, the negotiation part should have taken part BEFORE the job was completed. It would have been fair and both parties would have a chance to either enter the contract or walk away.
The way I see it is that you picked this guy off the street, drove him to your place, he completed the job and then you decided to pay him what you deemed to be accurate. When he displayed displeasure, you threatened him and basically told the guy you would bury him 6 ft. under (which would be hard since you would need another Mexican to dig the hole LOL). Yea I would like to see you act like that in a legal place of work. Talk about rude, arrogant and cocky.
 
Quote from saxon22:

He was upset because he was looking for a full day of work and not a couple of hours for $50. You have to understand that they are hired by the day and not by the hour. Whether he works 3 hours or 8 he still have to devote his day to you, get breakfast, lunch and pay for the transportation. Once he is done working for you chances of getting another gig that day are slim since most of the serious offers come in the morning.
Next time try hiring a company to do this job and I assure you a contractor would ask at least 400% more for that particular job.
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it was explained to him what i was seeking before he entered my vehicle,you dope.........i did him more than solid for someone whom does`nt belong in this country in the first place.....not trying to take advantage of the situation but providing someone less fortunate with an opprtunity.

being that you`re evidently an ethical bullshitter,perhaps i should`ve taxed him accordingly as well according to his tax bracket........or handed him a W9?
 
Quote from zdreg:

this is one more example of america sliding into 3rd world status.
1st there was a reverse brain drain of highly educated chinese and indians returning home.
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Link please.

Anecdotally, a MD level doctor I know who is asian indian is on the cusp of returning home. They hate the states. Anecdotal, but everything starts on the margins.
 
Another loser fake news by the media.

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Money Trickles North as Mexicans Help Relatives

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/16/world/americas/16mexico.html?_r=1&hp

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Sirenia Avendano wept as she spoke of sending money to her sons in the United States.

By MARC LACEY
Published: November 15, 2009

MIAHUATLÁN, Mexico — During the best of the times, Miguel Salcedo’s son, an illegal immigrant in San Diego, would be sending home hundreds of dollars a month to support his struggling family in Mexico. But at times like these, with the American economy out of whack and his son out of work, Mr. Salcedo finds himself doing what he never imagined he would have to do: wiring pesos north.

Unemployment has hit migrant communities in the United States so hard that a startling new phenomenon has been detected: instead of receiving remittances from relatives in the richest country on earth, some down-and-out Mexican families are scraping together what they can to support their unemployed loved ones in the United States.

“We send something whenever we have a little extra, at least enough so he can eat,” said Mr. Salcedo, who is from a small village here in the rural state of Oaxaca and works odd jobs to support his wife, his two younger sons and, now, his jobless eldest boy in California.

He is not alone. Leonardo Herrera, a rancher from outside Tuxtla Gutiérrez in the southern state of Chiapas, said he recently sold a cow to help raise $1,000 to send to his struggling nephew in northern California.

Also in Chiapas, a poor state that sends many migrants to the United States, María del Carmen Montufar has pooled money with her husband and other family members to wire financial assistance to her daughter Candelaria in North Carolina. In the last year, the family has sent money — small amounts ranging from $40 to $80 — eight times to help Candelaria and her husband, who are both without steady work and recently had a child.

“When she’s working she sends money to us,” the mother said. “But now, because there’s no work, we send money to her.”

Statistics measuring the extent of what experts are calling reverse remittances are hard to come by. But interviews in Mexico with government officials, money-transfer operators, immigration experts and relatives of out-of-work migrants show that a transaction that was rarely noticed before appears to be on the rise.

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Inez Juarez, in the state of Oaxaca, said her husband wanted to return from the United States but did not have the money to do so.

“It’s something that’s surprising, a symptom of the economic crisis,” said Martín Zuvire Lucas, who heads a network of community banks that operate in poor communities in Oaxaca and other underserved Mexican states. “We haven’t been able to measure it but we hear of more cases where money is going north.”

At one small bank in Chiapas that used to see money flowing in from the United States, more money is going out than coming in.

“I’d say every month 50,000 pesos are sent from here to there,” said Edith Ramírez Gonzalez, a sales executive at Banco Azteca in San Cristóbal de las Casas. “And from there, we’d receive about 30,000 pesos.” Fifty thousand pesos is $3,840.

With nearly half its population living in poverty, Mexico is not well placed to prop up struggling citizens abroad. Mexico could lose as many as 735,000 jobs this year and its economy may decline 7.5 percent, government economists predict, making the country one of the worst affected by the global recession.

Still, poverty is a relative concept. It is easier to get by on little in Mexico, especially in rural areas, allowing the poor to help the even more precarious.

In Miahuatlán, Sirenia Avendano and her husband may be more down and out than their two sons, both in their 20s, who wait tables at a Mexican restaurant in central Florida and have seen their hours reduced and their tips drop precipitously. But they live in their own home, on land they use to grow corn and other crops.

“We’re poor, but nobody can throw us out of this house,” Ms. Avendano said, wiping away tears at her kitchen table as she spoke of her sons’ economic travails. “They worry about that. What happens if they can’t pay the rent?” To help make ends meet, she sells chiles rellenos, a popular delicacy, around the neighborhood.

“We have an obligation to help them,” said her husband, Javier. “They’re our sons. It doesn’t matter if they are here or there.”

In other cases, the migrants are returning home, as the many passengers who hop off the bus that runs regularly from northern California to a gas station in Miahuatlán make clear. “There’s nothing up there,” said a young man with an overflowing suitcase who returned one recent night.

Still, although a study by the Pew Hispanic Center from July showed a sharp decrease in the number of Mexicans heading north, there has been no sign of a mass exodus of migrants back to Mexico. Immigrants’ families say it took great effort to scrape together the thousands of dollars needed to send relatives to the United States, a sum that includes the fees charged by the people who help them sneak in.

“It’s expensive to cross, and it was a great sacrifice for us,” said Mr. Salcedo, 43, who has sent about five wire transfers to his son Alfonso, 18, who this year lost his job as a cafeteria dishwasher.

As expected during an economic slowdown, the money sent home by immigrants has fallen. The Bank of Mexico reported recently that remittances during the first nine months of this year dropped to $16.4 billion, a 13.4 percent decline compared with the same period in 2008.

The flow of money out of Mexico is believed to be a tiny fraction of the remittances still arriving. “The evidence in this regard so far is anecdotal,” said Juan Luis Ordaz, senior economist at the Spanish bank BBVA Bancomer, who has begun investigating the reverse money flow.

Families of migrants speak proudly of their successful relatives in the United States and use the remittances they receive to do anything from buying livestock to replacing dirt floors with concrete. The importance of such money, which is among Mexico’s top sources of foreign currency, cannot be overstated. An estimated 5.9 percent of Mexican households, about 1.8 million families, receive economic support from abroad, studies show. For them, the money represents roughly 19 percent of total income for urban households and 27 percent for rural ones, according to government data analyzed by BBVA Bancomer.

For the Salcedos, the economic woes are intense on both sides of the border. The ones still here had moved to the outskirts of Mexico City seeking opportunity, but now they are on the verge of returning to Oaxaca because the owner of the land they are squatting on ordered them out.

For Alfonso, the situation has been just as difficult. He crossed into the United States in December with about $500 that his father gave him, supplemented with money he earned doing odd jobs in Tijuana. He found a job in San Diego paying enough for him to send home $170 the first month and $120 the next. The third month, he told his family he could afford to send only $40.

Then, like so many others, he lost the job and stopped sending anything.

Now his father has begun sending money the other way, usually about $60, less transfer fees. “We’ve decided to tighten our belt until we’re all working again,” Mr. Salcedo said.
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Quote from saxon22:

He was upset because he was looking for a full day of work and not a couple of hours for $50. You have to understand that they are hired by the day and not by the hour. Whether he works 3 hours or 8 he still have to devote his day to you, get breakfast, lunch and pay for the transportation. Once he is done working for you chances of getting another gig that day are slim since most of the serious offers come in the morning.
Next time try hiring a company to do this job and I assure you a contractor would ask at least 400% more for that particular job.
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Let me guess
You have traveled and lived outside the US.

jorge
 
Quote from jorgez:

Let me guess
You have traveled and lived outside the US.

jorge
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A bit - 40 countries and change, including living in MX for about 6 months.
 
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