Methods for gaining muscle and losing fat
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No argument there. At the top level, given that these guys all work out, eat well and take steroids, the best genetics will win out, all else being equal. But it also goes without saying that the guy with the best genetics wouldn't even place in today's BB competitions without the benefit of steroids.
In any event, I have no idea what draws these people to the kinds of bulk they have or want to have. I'd rather look like a gymnast than a bodybuilder. Sure, as a kid I was drawn to the idea of being a BMOC, and I wanted to look like Frank Zane in his prime. (And he was one of the smaller guys.) But the look is so high maintenance. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing. Then there is the matter of functional and relative strength. As strong as these behemoths are, I bet most of them couldn't do a single unweighted pistol squat.
Be careful with ursolic acid:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21703625
You may be trading short-term gains for long-term problems.
Patrick Arnold's reputation is, at best, mixed. I am not sure that citing his self-interested medical opinion advances the discussion.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21703625
You may be trading short-term gains for long-term problems.
Patrick Arnold's reputation is, at best, mixed. I am not sure that citing his self-interested medical opinion advances the discussion.
I had actually seen that site before I first commented on the substance. However, because there was also some apparently supportive material to be found on the Internet, I didn't cite any specific material. Instead, I just made a couple of my own general observations. But I also e-mailed a scientist who I periodically tap for information, Dr. Joe Schwarcz, Director, McGill Office for Science and Society. I sent him links to the mouse study and supporting material. He was a bit late getting back to me, which is the reason for my delay in posting. Here is his response:
There are hundreds of papers like this attesting to all sorts of biological effects in miceâ¦the question is what about humans? A mouse is not a small man. Until there is a proper randomized study in humans I wouldnât touch the stuff. Eat well and exerciseâ¦thatâs the magic formula.
His department's web site: http://www.mcgill.ca/oss/
And so, being on the risk-averse side, I think I'll wait.
Baron
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The problem is that the medical community is generally about 15 - 20 years behind when it comes to human-based research studies. By the time they get around to studying the effects of ursolic acid on humans, 10 - 20 more compounds will have been discovered that work even better based on anecdotal evidence.
Very interesting split.
Hitting chest, back, arms and shoulders in one session. I take it that muscle groups are trained in this order, and you're hitting them with just the one exercise?
Once again, very interesting approach which has obviously yielded dividends for yourself.
Congratulations on your achievement.
Baron
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Yeah in that order so the exercises would be as follows:
Chest would be dumbbell presses or flies.
Back thickness would be seated rows or bent over rows with dumbbells.
Back width would be pulldowns with an overhanded wide grip, or an underhanded narrow grip.
Triceps would be dips or pushdowns.
Biceps would be standing bicep curls, or standing hammer curls.
Shoulders would be lateral raises or upright rows. (I can't do overhead presses anymore because my right shoulder hurts so bad when I do them.) I'm lucky though, because if I have any genetically gifted areas, it's my shoulders and traps.
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