GreedYour first entry was good for 4.75 points 3 minutes later. Why did you not get out while you were green?
GreedYour first entry was good for 4.75 points 3 minutes later. Why did you not get out while you were green?
Greed
Write down exactly what you saw and what you did and someone will be able explain either why you misread the price action, the context or simply confirm your read and help you to except it as one of those trades that didn't work out.
I have never read any of Al Brooks books but if his trading strategy is truly price action and not more educational ambiguity it can be programmed and back tested. No need to waste money trading ambiguity and beating yourself up wondering if you have understood ambiguity.
You traded MES rather heavily on 2 Dec during the US session.
I didn't trade ES on 2 Dec (asian, Eur, US sessions) at all because its movement
was rather sluggish/lethargic.
I'd avoid such a market at all costs.
Do note that such a difficult to trade market is rather common.
Don't apply RS, price action, AlBrooks concepts blindly.
But there are other markets that were trendy and easy to trade.
Things that moved on 2 Dec during there US session
were NQ, USD based like copper, eur, gbp, oil, Natural Gas.
Learn to recognize the above 2 types of markets.
A lot of books incl AlBrooks don't teach you the distinction between these markets.
This is the most important skills to develop.
So on 3 Dec, will MES behave that badly again?!?
The probability is very high unless there is some major news, events,
powerful presidential tweets ...
all the best mister!
May I challenge that post and - as you said, you never read Al Brooks books - ask what, you did read =)
I know that question is scorned, as it often implies a fast hope to find an easy solution. Nevertheless, for willing ones to read and backtest, what would be your recommendation bookwise?
I really appreciate your effort and the contribution - thank you. I didnt ask for any specific in the internet, as for me it feels super easy to get lost thereI have not read many trading books. The ones I have read were read a long time ago and are listed below. They all provided me with information I needed at the time. Nowadays, information is more easily available on the internet, i.e., there are candlestick cheat sheets with every pattern under the sun and what they imply. From my testing, by themselves, candlestick patterns don't provide a statistical advantage. They need to be used with some other overriding support & resistance and therefore are just givers of confidence.
If they don't already have a basic understanding I think all traders would benefit from almost any book on auction market theory and basic statistics.
Japanese Candlestick Charting Techniques: A Contemporary Guide to the Ancient Investment Techniques of the Far East
Steve Nison
Markets and Market Logic
J. Peter Steidlmayer, Kevin Koy
Steidlmayer on Markets: A New Approach to Trading
J. Peter Steidlmayer
Mind over Markets: Power Trading with Market Generated Information
Robert Bevan Dalton, James F.;Jones, Eric T.;Dalton, Robert B.;Dalton
Racetrack Betting: The Professor's Guide to Strategies
Peter Asch, Richard E. Quandt, Rita Z. Asch
You traded MES rather heavily on 2 Dec during the US session.
I didn't trade ES on 2 Dec (asian, Eur, US sessions) at all because its movement
was rather sluggish/lethargic.
I'd avoid such a market at all costs.
Do note that such a difficult to trade market is rather common.
Don't apply RS, price action, AlBrooks concepts blindly.
But there are other markets that were trendy and easy to trade.
Things that moved on 2 Dec during there US session
were NQ, USD based like copper, eur, gbp, oil, Natural Gas.
Learn to recognize the above 2 types of markets.
A lot of books incl AlBrooks don't teach you the distinction between these markets.
This is the most important skills to develop.
So on 3 Dec, will MES behave that badly again?!?
The probability is very high unless there is some major news, events,
powerful presidential tweets ...
all the best mister!
Don't.
If you actually want help - I suggest you give us all an introduction about yourself and your current methodology, market experience, expectations and so on.
The brutal truth is that successful/consistent trading requires expertise. This takes a long time to acquire and by the time you've done so, you're no longer asking for advice because you asked the right questions yourself and found the answers yourself.
If you want to go down the 'price action' route you need to seriously study 'price action' and backcheck/back-test a lot. Be methodical and write down your observations. If you search up the poster NoDoji, she had a manual method of backtesting all her set-ups where she'd scroll from left to right on a historical chart and write down every time her set-up occurred and what happened. This gave her statistical data, 'ingrained the pattern in her mind' and other valuable information such as stop placement, targets and so on. I'm sure she also discovered a bit about what works and what doesn't.
Unless you can do this full-time (and probably still then) - live trading is a waste of time and inefficient use of your time. With back-testing/back-checking you can maybe do 5 days in the same amount of time. So, 35 sessions over the course of a week. 140 sessions over the course of a month. This lets you learn a lot in a relatively short amount of time if you're smart about it.
Do that for a few months and start building a plan based on the observations/studies you've done. Start trading it in simulator mode. Start trading it with 1 MES if your results are promising. Back to the drawing board if you lose money or notice other flaws in your approach. The latter is a common one by the way. Often, it's in live trading you notice where you're lacking.
Sounds like a lot of work? It is.![]()