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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/canada
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So, in the U.S., the death rate so far is
1,154,894 105,098,878 / 100 * fc
1.098864200%

And in Canada, the death rate so far is
51,930 3,979,600 / 100 * fc
1.304905000
%

The current Canadian death rate is
1.304905000 1.098864200 / 100 * 100 - fc
18.750342300
%
higher than the current U.S. death rate for reported cases with outcomes.


So, if you are unlucky enough to get COVID, you are more likely to die in Canada than in the U.S.

This is horrible, horrible analysis that has no value on the topic. You are abusing math to meet your emotional belief system.

Lets get to the stat that matters :

Deaths per million due to Covid Canada : 1353 US : 3450

I could also again bring up life expectancies in Canada vs the US, That rather damning fact is inconvenient for Americans who seem to think they have superior medical care then Canada.
 
Covid death rates are a terrible argument for any health care system as it has a lot more to do with policy and social norms than anything else. Zimbabwe kicked Canada's ass on that stat: COVID-19 pandemic death rates by country - Wikipedia so by your logic Canada's health care is worse than third world healthcare. The fact is most of these outcomes are not 100% tied to any health care system and if you look at it with more closely you will see things like Canada outcomes are not that much different than Minnesota outcomes, which is a vastly better comparison for obvious reasons.


Canada's problems are well known, satisfaction surveys always show issues. Th But here is the thing, if it is so great why does supplemental insurance even exist? Why can the rich buy front of line service? why no vision? Looks a LOT like American medicare which is terrible, where anyone who can afford it buys supplemental. I feel sorry for Canadians, I would not want to be forced into that awful system when I can afford better. That's why you do in fact have private health insurance.

How Much Does It Cost For Health Insurance In Canada Today? - Consumer Insurance (consumersmutual.org)
Total Cost Of Health Coverage In Canada

The average person in Canada, as stated before, pays about $2000 Canadian money for universal healthcare out of their taxes. Supplemental plans will cost, on average, about $4000 per person. In total, Canadians will pay about $500 Canadian money for health insurance, of which about $330 per month will come out of pocket. For young people that are single, this could be a sizable investment, whereas older people with many medical problems will see this as a cost-effective solution.

Although many countries throughout the world offer universal healthcare, they will not always cover everything. Places like the UK have even more comprehensive policies that cover all appointments, treatments, and nearly every prescription drug you can get with a prescription. If you are in Canada, and you don’t go to the doctor that often, the universal healthcare that is free will likely be enough. However, you always have the option of getting supplemental Canadian health insurance that can help pay for expensive long-term health care, dental work, and prescription medications that you may need to use on a regular basis.

You've misrepresented the reality here so there isn't much value in what you are posting on this topic.
 
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
View attachment 310720

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/canada
View attachment 310721

So, in the U.S., the death rate so far is
1,154,894 105,098,878 / 100 * fc
1.098864200%

And in Canada, the death rate so far is
51,930 3,979,600 / 100 * fc
1.304905000
%

The current Canadian death rate is
1.304905000 1.098864200 / 100 * 100 - fc
18.750342300
%
higher than the current U.S. death rate for reported cases with outcomes.


So, if you are unlucky enough to get COVID, you are more likely to die in Canada than in the U.S.
Wasn't there something at some point that warmer temps and getting outdoors in sun that you absorbed vitamin d which helps "protect" against Covid?

Not sure though but if that is the case, medically it might explain some of the difference in outcome rates - Canada obviously being further up in Northern Hemisphere.
 
Lets get to the stat that matters deaths per million due to Covid Canada : 1353 US : 3450
By your method of analysis, Africa has a healthcare system miles ahead of either of these two losers, and on a per dollar basis, it's gotta be light years ahead!
 
This is horrible, horrible analysis that has no value on the topic. You are abusing math to meet your emotional belief system.

Lets get to the stat that matters :

Deaths per million due to Covid Canada : 1353 US : 3450

I could also again bring up life expectancies in Canada vs the US, That rather damning fact is inconvenient for Americans who seem to think they have superior medical care then Canada.
I'm not trying to say healthcare is better in the U.S. than in Canada but, the statistics you and I posted are both accurate. The outcome of about one percent of COVID cases in the U.S. and Canada is death with Canada's being worse.

Deaths per capita isn't the only statistic that matters.
 
Wasn't there something at some point that warmer temps and getting outdoors in sun that you absorbed vitamin d which helps "protect" against Covid?

Not sure though but if that is the case, medically it might explain some of the difference in outcome rates - Canada obviously being further up in Northern Hemisphere.
It's a possibility.

From Bing AI Search:
how does exposure to sunlight affect COVID-19 outcomes?

There is some evidence that suggests that sunlight exposure may have an impact on COVID-19 outcomes. Sunlight can affect the stability of SARS-CoV-2 in aerosols and thereby have an impact on the decay rate of the virus. Solar radiation might play an important role in inactivating SARS-CoV-2 that persists on different surfaces and in the environment1. One study found that people living in areas with the highest level of exposure to UVA rays had a lower risk of dying from COVID-19 compared with those with lower levels2. However, more research is needed to establish a causal relationship between sunlight exposure and COVID-19 outcomes.

Learn more:
1. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov2. sciencedaily.com3. jpost.com4. ed.ac.uk
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By your method of analysis, Africa has a healthcare system miles ahead of either of these two losers, and on a per dollar basis, it's gotta be light years ahead!

Not at all what my "analysis" says. But you believe what you want. As I used to say to "Jem" you earned your medical costs by your belief system. Canadians took a better route on this many decades ago and the US is still struggling to figure this out.
 
You've misrepresented the reality here so there isn't much value in what you are posting on this topic.

No I haven't, there are many non-medical factors that go into Covid death rates, and you didn't address any.
 
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