Quote from Misthos:
What is lacking today is transparency, among other things.
Quote from OldTrader:
Evidently you've forgotten her fictional character, Midas Mulligan.....a banker....and financier of some of the other characters in her novel, Atlas Shrugged.
No society thrives without banks. And I'm certain that Rand would agree. Now whether she would agree with the FED, or some of the other modern distortions like FDIC and regulations which help to create the distortions and problems that modern banks have...that's another question.
OldTrader
Quote from Misthos:
I've said this before. Enough of the Ayn Rand comparisons to Wall Street.
She championed THE CREATORS OF WEALTH - THE PRODUCERS OF THINGS. People that made things like railroads, buildings, steel, hell, even hamburgers.
What does wall street do? It creates nothing but paper wealth with the backing of the fed. It redistributes wealth and gets bailed out. That's it.
Ayn Rand is probably turning over in her grave as these Banksters compare themselves to her philosophy. False Prophets all of them.
AYN RAND considered the Federal Reserve one of the greatest abominations.
I say let these Banksters go anywhere they want. They blew up the world and now they say they're indespensbale. Fuck them. Hell, why don't we pay them to work in China, Russia, or even Iran or Venezuela? Think of the damage they could do to those countries as they have done to ours.
Fuck 'em.
Quote from dewton:
so are you all against trading too? because traders and bankers are in the same boat. both don't produce anything of tangible value to society and both use leverage for parasitic speculation.
Quote from Misthos:
I've said this before. Enough of the Ayn Rand comparisons to Wall Street.
She championed THE CREATORS OF WEALTH - THE PRODUCERS OF THINGS. People that made things like railroads, buildings, steel, hell, even hamburgers.
What does wall street do? It creates nothing but paper wealth with the backing of the fed. It redistributes wealth and gets bailed out. That's it.
Ayn Rand is probably turning over in her grave as these Banksters compare themselves to her philosophy. False Prophets all of them.
AYN RAND considered the Federal Reserve one of the greatest abominations.
I say let these Banksters go anywhere they want. They blew up the world and now they say they're indespensbale. Fuck them. Hell, why don't we pay them to work in China, Russia, or even Iran or Venezuela? Think of the damage they could do to those countries as they have done to ours.
Fuck 'em.
Quote from Specterx:
Of course, the guys at AIG, Citigroup etc. - in this analogy, the "men of the mind" who are going on strike - are the failures. They should lose their jobs and the institutions should be liquidated.
The real "men of the mind" in finance are guys like Ray Dalio, John Paulson, George Soros, Warren Buffet, and the owner/operators of the thousands of stable American banks. If only we'd let prices for the toxic crap fall low enough, competent fund managers would step in to buy. If only we would let the failed banks go under (with the usual FDIC intervention) then healthy regional banks would love to pick up Citibank and BofA accounts and branches on the cheap.
Quote from OldTrader:
i think it's obvious that Rand would not have supported the bailouts. Bailouts have no place in a capitalistic society.
Frankly though your list of "men of the mind" is amusing. Both Soros and Buffet are ultra liberal, big government proponents. Rand on the other hand thought that government had limited purpose, like national defense for instance.
An example of "men of the mind" would be John Allison IV, Chairman and CEO of BB&T, the 14th largest financial holding company in the US. Interestly he sent a letter to every Congressman and Senator during the TARP hearings, against TARP. He claims that Atlas Shrugged is the best defense of capitalism ever written, and requires all senior executives of his company to read it.
OldTrader
