Memo looks like a nothing burger... Read it here

[UsualName]

Couldn't find a pic with the timeline. You will have to take my word for it. It was 'way before'....

I can help. I believe the Washington Times discontinued funding for the research at the time Trump got the nomination and the first fisa warrant for Page was issued October 2016. The GOP convention was July-ish, so my guess is that the w times discontinued somewhere around June 2016, the latest.

So, my guess is a 5 month timeline. Does that seem like “way before?” Not to me.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

Total nonsense. Intelligence agencies surveil targets for years, gathering information on contacts and networks, plots and schemes.

Nice try, though.

Try bringing some intelligence to what I wrote and why.

My point is exactly what you said, "Intelligence agencies surveil targets for years, gathering information on contacts and networks, plots and schemes."

But unless you are in a soviet court, just telling the judge that you have been watching and surveilling someone for years, is not sufficient to get a warrant. The question becomes, "if you have been watching page for years, how come you don't have anything on him to use without a dnc funded dossier." You and your lefty ilk are making a soviet KGB argument which is that just the fact that he was known to the secret police and was being watched by the secret police is in and of itself evidence of probable cause even though you did not find anything that would support a warrant.

Good job, Comrade. Extra potato for you in your rations for this month.

 

[Optionpro007]

I can help. I believe the Washington Times discontinued funding for the research at the time Trump got the nomination and the first fisa warrant for Page was issued October 2016. The GOP convention was July-ish, so my guess is that the w times discontinued somewhere around June 2016, the latest.

So, my guess is a 5 month timeline. Does that seem like “way before?” Not to me.

Thanks. Yes, 5 months is 'way before'. The Dossier was used as a pretext to 'spy' on Carter=Trump because after 4 years they had nothing better on him and they needed to create an excuse to help Clinton and bury Trump simultaneously. Unfortunately for them and you, they never expected for Trump to win.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

What a surprise, the video has been pulled. The Hannity ones always seem to stay up..

Hey, who knows how many death threats Shep Smith regularly gets from the typical Fox viewer. Next step: witness protection.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

I can help. I believe the Washington Times discontinued funding for the research at the time Trump got the nomination and the first fisa warrant for Page was issued October 2016. The GOP convention was July-ish, so my guess is that the w times discontinued somewhere around June 2016, the latest.

So, my guess is a 5 month timeline. Does that seem like “way before?” Not to me.

Even if the dossier was 100% funded by the republicans and had never been touched by democrats it does not change the fact that the fbi used opposition research to obtain a warrant without disclosing to the court that its source was from a political opponent. Primary opponents and republican never-trumpers are also political opposition, eh?

In any case, the products of that dossier was in the possession of and under the development of the democrats when it was fed to the fbi and when the fbi and fusion leaked it to reporters and when the fbi foisted a fraud upon the court. Whether the republicans did opposition research with fusion at an earlier date is neither here nor there in regard to legal problems that are under scrutiny.

 

[Slartibartfast]

I found another copy someone made.

I was navigating the FOX news site and it was impossible for me to find, I may have skipped over the obvious?

Perhaps opinion, news and non-far-right-wing opinion need to be kept separate just in case Donny stumbled across Shepherd.

I found his space via Google

http://www.foxnews.com/shows/shepard-smith.html

But.. seems a bit thin on Friday's show..

 

[UsualName]

Try bringing some intelligence to what I wrote and why.

My point is exactly what you said, "Intelligence agencies surveil targets for years, gathering information on contacts and networks, plots and schemes."

But unless you are in a soviet court, just telling the judge that you have been watching and surveilling someone for years, is not sufficient to get a warrant. The question becomes, "if you have been watching page for years, how come you don't have anything on him to use without a dnc funded dossier." You and your lefty ilk are making a soviet KGB argument which is that just the fact that he was known to the secret police and was being watched by the secret police is in and of itself evidence of probable cause even though you did not find anything that would support a warrant.

Good job, Comrade. Extra potato for you in your rations for this month.

There’s a better argument for defending Page than the one you’re making, and the one you’re making is of no consequence.

As I said, Page was a known Russian sympathizer:

It’s not a question of did the fbi have the goods to surveil Page, it’s a question of was the Trump campaign working with him knowingly. That’s the real exposure with this guy.

The larger argument you’re making is a losing one. You’re arguing the Steele/fusion opposition research was politically motivated and therefore should not be usable. 1) it was funded from both sides, so it wasn’t partisan in fact and 2) motivation for reporting a crime doesn’t matter.

 

[UsualName]

Even if the dossier was 100% funded by the republicans and had never been touched by democrats it does not change the fact that the fbi used opposition research to obtain a warrant without disclosing to the court that its source was from a political opponent. Primary opponents and republican never-trumpers are also political opposition, eh?

In any case, the products of that dossier was in the possession of and under the development of the democrats when it was fed to the fbi and when the fbi and fusion leaked it to reporters and when the fbi foisted a fraud upon the court. Whether the republicans did opposition research with fusion at an earlier date is neither here nor there in regard to legal problems that are under scrutiny.

It was reported the fbi presented the dossier to the court as a political document or something to that effect. For the fbi to present it as a bipartisan document would have given the impression of partiality. It is what it is, a political document.

 

[UsualName]

Thanks. Yes, 5 months is 'way before'. The Dossier was used as a pretext to 'spy' on Carter=Trump because after 4 years they had nothing better on him and they needed to create an excuse to help Clinton and bury Trump simultaneously. Unfortunately for them and you, they never expected for Trump to win.

Well, let me just remind tou the law has a long arm. In the scheme of things, 5 months isn’t very long at all.

 

[Optionpro007]

Well, let me just remind tou the law has a long arm. In the scheme of things, 5 months isn’t very long at all.

You could learn to be more realistic and accept the fact that the deep state tried to frame Trump on Russian collusion but it was the DNC and the FBI who actually did it. I would find it impossible for Obama not to have been involved. It would seem he was certain 'an insurance policy' was in the works....