I’d be a king in Texas, where they have to wash their clothes in the River because using washing machines is a big no-no now that they can’t even keep the lights on.
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I’d be a king in Texas, where they have to wash their clothes in the River because using washing machines is a big no-no now that they can’t even keep the lights on.
Speaking of Chicken Pox, many who had Chicken Pox get shingles later in life, with a possible correlation with immunological stress. Hopefully long term survivors of Covid will not be facing a similar situation. As it is, people often get sick after being subjected to sustained lowered body temperature or experiencing some sort of other significant, prolonged stress. Could it be from a virus they harbored, that lay dormant until the host’s immune system was sufficiently weakened, can cause an opportunistic reinfection?
After conversation with my cargo handling roommate, I think it is more likely I caught Covid in late December, 2019 than I previously thought. Either way, I am placing getting a vaccine at a low priority for now and may try to get through the next flu(Covid?) season without one. Personally, if I where to take a vaccine, it would be in early September for timing reasons, with an updated vaccine being looked at more favorably. However, like I said earlier, vaccine manufacturers are always playing catch up and vaccines have adverse effects for everybody, at least to a degree, including potentially weakening long term immunity health, especially as the number of one’s vaccinations increase, in my opinion.
SARS, Covid, and Influenza are related respiratory viruses that quickly mutate, making it likely that seasonal outbreaks will be with us for a long time in my mind. Influenza vaccines have been with us for a long time as well. Of course, I hope my assessment to be wrong. For once. Grin.
The next flu/covid season should be enlightening. Hopefully, it will be good news.
In other words, Democrats have other ways to profit from Covid, not just politically?
I get you’re trying to make a political point here but there is a substantive issue at the core of what you’re saying.
There will be winners and losers coming out of this pandemic both domestically and globally. Domestically, states with high vaccination rates will economically and socially outperform states with low vaccination rates. Same thing globally, we are already seeing a rush in economic activity and investment here in the US while other areas are floundering. And when the Fed starts raising interest rates and the dollar strengthens we are going to be an even bigger juggernaut globally because of our vaccination rates.
But I’m guessing you were thinking something a bit smaller, like petty politics. I would love to see red states get vaccinated at higher rates and that would not help democrats but it would be best for our country.
You want to talk about potential side effects, a side effect of the Covid pandemic is American life expectancy has dropped 2 years from 79 to 77. Do you have any idea of the amount of excess death it takes to drop life expectancy of an entire nation by 2 years?
Sounds like more reason to punish China for creating the pandemic. What a mess China put us in, wouldn't you agree?
I’m open to ideas but as I have already said, that ship has sailed. We need a pandemic treaty going forward. Unless you have some big brain stuff you would like to share.
In comparison to the 1918 Influenza Pandemic...that Pandemic dropped the U.S. life expectancy by a whopping 12 years after it killed 50 million people worldwide and infected +25% of the United States population.
It was so devastating, there was an attempt by many far right groups to ignore and not teach what the Influenza had done to the global population and the United States population. In fact, for awhile, schools refused to allow their teachers to educate students about what was occurring as a result of the Pandemic.
Crazy to see the similarities of a historical repeat coming out of the 2020 - 2021 Pandemic.
wrbtrader
Ok, I’ll work with you on this one:
Tests are garbage - While there are false positives and false negatives, especially in early testing, Covid testing performance gotten better and quicker, resulting in earlier treatment for Covid as well as other causes of symptoms, including life threatening non-covid related causes of respiratory distress.
Death classification is absurd - Yes, primary cause of death can be ambiguous, however Covid is truly a dangerous member of the flu family that causes short or long term disability in 13 to 14% of those infected.
Masks are useless - Masks, other PPE, and best anti-viral practices can be useless if not properly implemented. So when we quit being immature prima donnas and learn to properly wear our PPE, avoid large concentration of people, wipe down frequently used surfaces with disinfectant, and increase building ventilation, we will make progress against Covid and other infectious diseases.
Lockdowns are counterproductive - I’m completely with you on this one.
Vaccines are dangerous - Yes they are. Further, any immunity granted to the elderly, the people most likely to be seriously affected by Covid, is more likely to be short lived. However, some diseases are so severe, a vaccine’s potential benefits may outweigh the risks. The big question in my mind is Covid serious enough that vaccines are warranted and are vaccines actually effective enough against Covid to be worth the risks? In my opinion, Covid is serious enough to make the goal of creating a viable vaccine a worthwhile endeavor. However, my concern is vaccines can only provide limited, short term protection, against a “Obsolete” covid strain, making the risk to reward of vaccines questionable.
No well done for anybody until we put Covid in the history books.
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In comparison to the 1918 Influenza Pandemic...that Pandemic dropped the U.S. life expectancy by a whopping 12 years after it killed 50 million people worldwide and infected +25% of the United States population.
It was so devastating, there was an attempt by many far right groups to ignore and not teach what the Influenza had done to the global population and the United States population. In fact, for awhile, schools refused to allow their teachers to educate students about what was occurring as a result of the Pandemic.
Crazy to see the similarities of a historical repeat coming out of the 2020 - 2021 Pandemic.
wrbtrader
The 1918 pandemic was extremely dangerous to adults in their prime, the majority of people killed were between 25 and 45, if I recall correctly. That’ll take out a huge chunk in life expectancy right there.