Media Narrative BTFO by Cali ER Doctors

no... it was your article which brought up philly ... you told me to read it.
what the hell is going on here?

are you on drugs... click your first link its starts with philly? I will post your quote below.

my argument is that the response should be supported by the data and real science and must be tailored to the community. Blanket shutdowns are currently a disaster with respect to this virus.

this was your post about philly...


gwb-trading said:
Obviously you have not been reading all the material I have been posting -- and just nitpicking on a couple of items you desire to quibble about.

Why don't you start here for an education about the 1918 flu and the response of cities with results.
How some cities ‘flattened the curve’ during the 1918 flu pandemic
Social distancing isn’t a new idea—it saved thousands of American lives during the last great pandemic. Here's how it worked
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...-curve-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic-coronavirus/

Then follow it up with
Cities That Went All In on Social Distancing in 1918 Emerged the Stronger for It
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...ties-social-distancing-better-employment.html
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Interesting views from the doctors but they seem to not understand what is happening.

In Italy more than 160 doctors have died from Covid so far.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...onavirus-news-n1189306/ncrd1189336#blogHeader

Italy had had 2+ million cases of flu and only 240 deaths by January 23rd 2020.

https://www.thelocal.it/20200123/flu-outbreak-in-italy-half-a-million-people-struck-down-in-a-week

The reason why hospitals are not flooded with dying patients is because of the measures taken.
 
Hotcakes said:
YouTube deleted the video.

Just like Google deleted the video of Joe bidens rape victims mom on Larry King
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This is because the video and assertions from the ER doctors have been demonstrated to be completely incorrect.

Cue the debunking: Two Bakersfield doctors go viral with dubious COVID test conclusions
https://calmatters.org/health/2020/04/debunking-bakersfield-doctors-covid-spread-conclusions/

We should note that the correct term will shortly be "former ER doctors" -- there is a huge demand that Dr. Daniel Erickson and Dr. Artin Messihibe fired from the American College of Emergency Physicians and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine as well as most other medical organizations. Their conduct is reprehensible.

And this is all your need to know - "But already the Bakersfield doctors — who tout their support of President Donald Trump and refuse to wear masks in public..."
 
gwb-trading said:
This is because the video and assertions from the ER doctors have been demonstrated to be completely incorrect.

Cue the debunking: Two Bakersfield doctors go viral with dubious COVID test conclusions
https://calmatters.org/health/2020/04/debunking-bakersfield-doctors-covid-spread-conclusions/

We should note that the correct term will shortly be "former ER doctors" -- there is a huge demand that Dr. Daniel Erickson and Dr. Artin Messihibe fired from the American College of Emergency Physicians and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine as well as most other medical organizations. Their conduct is reprehensible.

And this is all your need to know - "But already the Bakersfield doctors — who tout their support of President Donald Trump and refuse to wear masks in public..."
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What exactly was "incorrect" about the publicly available data the docs discussed ? Precisely ?
 
Hotcakes said:
You're the one calling their data flawed and wrong , so why is the Cali doctors data flawed and wrong ?

Why can't you defend your opinions with facts ?
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Experts are calling the data flawed and wrong. Medical associations have reprimanded them and want them both fired. Nothing more needs to be said.
 
gwb-trading said:
Experts are calling the data flawed and wrong. Medical associations have reprimanded them and want them both fired. Nothing more needs to be said.
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Which "experts"? Fauci?

How is the government available data "flawed and wrong "? Please be specific.

U realize the data the Cali docs referenced is published by state and local governments .... ? So how is that government data wrong ?

Since it's wrong , we should certainly file for corrections with each state and local government to amend their covid statistics for the sake of accuracy, shouldn't we ?
 
Hotcakes said:
Which "experts"? Fauci?

How is the government available data "flawed and wrong "? Please be specific.

U realize the data the Cali docs referenced is published by state and local governments .... ? So how is that government data wrong ?

Since it's wrong , we should certainly file for corrections with each state and local government to amend their covid statistics for the sake of accuracy, shouldn't we ?
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These two clowns used the same exact assertions as the Standford and USC studies which were proven to be totally incorrect and statistically wrong. State and local governments do not support their assertions - nor the misuse of data for political purposes by these two clowns.

From the article
"Other highly-publicized studies of antibody test results by Stanford and USC researchers were similarly criticized for sampling bias and for the poor reliability of the tests it used. Researchers had suggested that "COVID-19’s true spread in the community was much higher than expected and resulting death rates were low."
 
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