He's talking total deaths. Not the death rate percentage.
Media Narrative BTFO by Cali ER Doctors
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Except for Sweden, dumb shit. Ask yourself how long the serology tests have been around. You're literally too dumb to debate.
Sweden's death rate rises to 12%
2355 deaths / 19621 cases = 12.0% death rate
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/
2355 deaths / 19621 cases = 12.0% death rate
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/
He spoke very directly about the COVID-19 death rate being 5 to 8 times more than the seasonal flu minimum.
If the deaths are massively understated for COVID19, then why don't they show up in ur NYT analysis you often cite?
NYT shows the weekly YoY rolling data pretty clearly. We're 21,000 deaths over the sampled back-dated average. Do you agree with that? Yes or no? If no, why do you continually cite the NYT death totals? Further, if you don't agree with the NYT death total analysis, then where are all these additional deaths ? Why don't they show up in the total NYC death counts?
The NYT article says we're overcounting COVID19 deaths. Strokes, heart attacks, late stage cancer patients and others, are avoiding the hospital for fear of contracting COVID19 at the hospital.
This is what many Doctors have said, including the Cali docs. Think about it. Nearly every single hospital is closed to anything BUT COVID19 patients. Many late stage cancer patients are not getting therapy. Many people with heart attacks will not go to the hospital. Many with strokes will not go to the hospital. They're afraid. So they stay home. Due to the massive fear that's been perpetuated, and sadly, they die from lack of urgent medical treatment.
Sweden basically said, fuck it, we survived The Plague. I am serious. I am 100% Swede and that's how they address these outbreaks. So the testing outside a hospital is nominal which pushes the death rate in hospitals to something in the range of 15-25%.
Please provide a link to the NYT article. The only NYT article I have seen states we are undercounting deaths.
No, Sweden is using antibody tests. Just like Cuomo is in NYC. And everyone else when they calculate the death rate. Antibody tests. Not confirmed cases.
You know there's two tests used? One to determine if a person currently has it? The other is the antibody test to confirm an exposed person has recovered from COVID19?
Confirmed cases is a much narrower metric, which makes the denominator much lower. Captures a much smaller portion of the population (only those that currently have it). That's why u quoted a 12% Swedish death rate. Which is ridiculous.
The argument you're making is this.......
If Sweden has 100 confirmed cases, and 12 deaths.....the death rate is 12%.
What about all the other people who were exposed to the virus and recovered? Using the antibody test? Now 1000 people have had the virus and recovered with 12 deaths = 1.2% death rate. Makes a big (political) difference which denominator we use eh.
Tegnell said sampling and modeling data indicated that 20% of Stockholm’s population is already immune to the virus, and that “in a few weeks’ time we might reach herd immunity and we believe that is why we’re seeing a slow decline in cases, in spite of sampling (testing for the coronavirus) more and more.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/no-...ockholm-could-see-herd-immunity-in-weeks.html
You know that the serology tests have only been utilized in the past two weeks in Sweden?
They are (using serology test kits now), they were not (until very recently).
I am stating, using my PFC instead of your asshole, that Sweden's testing rate was very low outside of the actute-care setting. IOW, testing equated to hospitalization, therefore the death rate exceeded 12% of those tested. You fucking idiot.
A flat out lie. We can only use antibody test rates for the denominator.
You're purposefully ignoring all the persons who recovered from COVID19, who were never tested when they were sick with COVID19, and later recovered.
The COVID19 presence test doesn't capture antibodies (who's had the virus and recovered).
Therefore, you're data is flawed. As is ur calculated death rate.