MEAT needs to be taxed to the max - modern meats are evil....

[Reaver]

Quote from Vista:

A gorilla's diet consists of mostly fruits and leaves and little bit of termites. Can someone tell me how these creatures can be so muscular and strong without meat?

From my own personal experience, after having weight trained for many years, I have not experienced any negative effects from giving up 80% of the meat I used to eat. Over the past 10 yrs or so, my diet has changed from heavy red meat and pork and almost no fruit, to small amounts of fish & chicken and large amounts of vegetables and fruits. If anything, I think I look tighter than 10 yrs ago. At least my wife thinks so.

A gorilla is not a human being. Their bodies perhaps can assimilate the vegetable protein properly, whereas humans cannot. Also, termites are high in protein as well, so yes, they are eating animal protein also.

Humans can benefit from vegetable protein but it is not optimal to do so, as vegetable proteins are incomplete as far as humans are concerned.

Why do cows get fat from only eating grass if veganism is the key to healthy living?

Why can't I inject gorilla growth hormone into my body to repair? Because the protein structure and utilizations are different.

Even though we may be related to gorillas or even resemble them in some cases , the physiological response to protein, etc at the genetic level can be totally different

 

[giles117]

But humans can assimilate Meat Protein Better eh??

Check your Science....

Humans can assimilate Fruit Protein 100 times better than meat protein and yes, marginally better than vegetable (Leaves, stalks, stems) proteins.

Check your science.

Humans eat what they want to eat and suffer the consequences. I suppose the impacted Colons of Meat eaters is a Myth.

Riiigggghhhttt!!!!

 

[FightTheFuture]

Quote from jficquette:

That is not true. It was widely circulated some years ago that different blood types should eat different food. There was a even a book written about it. However this has disproved.

I have blood type A and I eat the shit out of meat and when I do and cut out carbs then I lose weight and feel great.

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John

A researcher, or MD can easily dismiss or prove that a diet is ineffective, especially if felt threatened by such new ideas. I've read some of the negative challenges to the diet.

There are companies working on more accurate genetic testing to formulate a diet superior to the blood type diet. My doctor says genetic testing is the future of all diets.

I certainly do not think the blood type diet or other genetically based diets are 100% accurate, but the health improvements are obvious.

I've been on the blood type diet over 3 years. The first thing I noticed starting the diet was that my hands turned redder from being a pale white indicating a substantial increase in blood flow and oxygenation therefore increased tissue repair. Prior to the diet I was eating the wrong foods that contain lectins that caused my red blood cells to severely clump together.

This was also proven to me by live blood analysis under a microscope. The doctor and I have examined my blood numerous times. The first time she examined my blood I was not on the diet. Blood cells were all stuck together and the blood was full of debris and garbage. Shortly after starting the diet, my blood started looking cleaner, and the blood cells were separated from each other.

She knows when I have been eating the wrong foods as the blood cells stick together if I eat something I shouldn't. She caught me twice. She believes so strongly in the diet that she refuses to work with any patient that will not adhere to the diet. I've been on the diet 100% since then.

I did have a mild degree of kidney damage that is supposedly irreversible. The diet itself has promoted repair of the kidneys with no indication of damage. My kidneys work better too, no edema. Took about 2 years, worth it though.

I know a lot of people on the blood type diet, and all have noticed positive, sometimes dramatic improvements in their health, where all other diets failed to do much if anything. I know several people with terminal illnesses given a few months to live by their MD go into remission when strictly on the diet. It actually impressed a few MDs enough to consult with my doctor about the blood type diet. MDs get really mad when their patients don't die when they say they will. They hate being wrong.

You can read all the books you want on health and trading, but there is nothing like actually experiencing live trading or sticking to a strict diet that does not allow your favorite foods and watching results in health improvement. It's too easy to dismiss or believe something until you experience it.

 

[jficquette]

Quote from FightTheFuture:

A researcher, or MD can easily dismiss or prove that a diet is ineffective, especially if felt threatened by such new ideas. I've read some of the negative challenges to the diet.

There are companies working on more accurate genetic testing to formulate a diet superior to the blood type diet. My doctor says genetic testing is the future of all diets.

I certainly do not think the blood type diet or other genetically based diets are 100% accurate, but the health improvements are obvious.

I've been on the blood type diet over 3 years. The first thing I noticed starting the diet was that my hands turned redder from being a pale white indicating a substantial increase in blood flow and oxygenation therefore increased tissue repair. Prior to the diet I was eating the wrong foods that contain lectins that caused my red blood cells to severely clump together.

This was also proven to me by live blood analysis under a microscope. The doctor and I have examined my blood numerous times. The first time she examined my blood I was not on the diet. Blood cells were all stuck together and the blood was full of debris and garbage. Shortly after starting the diet, my blood started looking cleaner, and the blood cells were separated from each other.

She knows when I have been eating the wrong foods as the blood cells stick together if I eat something I shouldn't. She caught me twice. She believes so strongly in the diet that she refuses to work with any patient that will not adhere to the diet. I've been on the diet 100% since then.

I did have a mild degree of kidney damage that is supposedly irreversible. The diet itself has promoted repair of the kidneys with no indication of damage. My kidneys work better too, no edema. Took about 2 years, worth it though.

I know a lot of people on the blood type diet, and all have noticed positive, sometimes dramatic improvements in their health, where all other diets failed to do much if anything. I know several people with terminal illnesses given a few months to live by their MD go into remission when strictly on the diet. It actually impressed a few MDs enough to consult with my doctor about the blood type diet. MDs get really mad when their patients don't die when they say they will. They hate being wrong.

You can read all the books you want on health and trading, but there is nothing like actually experiencing live trading or sticking to a strict diet that does not allow your favorite foods and watching results in health improvement. It's too easy to dismiss or believe something until you experience it.

I spent two weeks at Optimum Health in San Diego. I met all kinds of people who claimed remission of diseases by eating tons of wheatgrass. I came away thinking that the people running OH were just a bunch of old hippes.

When I heard about the blood type diet I got excited about it and tried the diet for my type. I felt like hell. No energy. Didn't even have the energy to work out.

That is when I did the research and found that there was nothing but antedoctal evidence to suggest the blood type diet worked.

BTW, did you start to exercise about the same time you went on your diet? If so maybe that is biggest reason for your improvement in health.

John


http://www.optimumhealth.org/optimumhealth/ohisandiego/ohisandiego.htm

 

[jficquette]

Quote from Reaver:

A gorilla is not a human being. Their bodies perhaps can assimilate the vegetable protein properly, whereas humans cannot. Also, termites are high in protein as well, so yes, they are eating animal protein also.

Humans can benefit from vegetable protein but it is not optimal to do so, as vegetable proteins are incomplete as far as humans are concerned.

Why do cows get fat from only eating grass if veganism is the key to healthy living?

Why can't I inject gorilla growth hormone into my body to repair? Because the protein structure and utilizations are different.

Even though we may be related to gorillas or even resemble them in some cases , the physiological response to protein, etc at the genetic level can be totally different

That's the basis the nuts at Optimium health used to promote eating vegan.

John

 

[Reaver]

Quote from jficquette:

That's the basis the nuts at Optimium health used to promote eating vegan.

John

Just because they may be nuts doesn't make my statement incorrect.

 

[Reaver]

Quote from giles117:

But humans can assimilate Meat Protein Better eh??

Check your Science....

Humans can assimilate Fruit Protein 100 times better than meat protein and yes, marginally better than vegetable (Leaves, stalks, stems) proteins.

Check your science.

Humans eat what they want to eat and suffer the consequences. I suppose the impacted Colons of Meat eaters is a Myth.

Riiigggghhhttt!!!!

Post your sources since you're saying my "science" is wrong.

In all your genius you seemed to have missed the key point I was making-

Vegetable protein is incomplete, I assume you already know what the term incomplete means.

In other words, the amino acids necessary for the human body are lacking. Eating only vegetable protein would not yield all of the amino acids necessary for survival. Yes, of course there are some decent vegetable protein sources, but they are still incomplete and thus a human being cannot live exclusively on them without suffering consequences.

Again, if you are wanting to refute my science, then post proof. Post a citation, or don't come over here playing science professor.

 

[jficquette]

Quote from Reaver:

Just because they may be nuts doesn't make my statement incorrect.

They were saying that we should eat like the gorillas because they had tons of muscle mass which proved that we humans don't have to eat meat.

They figured there was no difference in gorillas and humans in how they assilimated protein.


John

 

[Reaver]

Quote from jficquette:

They were saying that we should eat like the gorillas because they had tons of muscle mass which proved that we humans don't have to eat meat.

They figured there was no difference in gorillas and humans in how they assilimated protein.


John

Oh I see what you mean now, my bad.

 

[maxpi]

Where are my chia seeds? I went off my great primarily raw veggies and seeds diet [with hamburgers], but my main transportation is my mountain bike and I do physical labor on weekends and I swear, for what I'm doing, occasionally I need to have a salad bar meal but not every day, I feel fine......

What people don't get is that there are nutrients that researchers have proven you need a certain amount of and that amount cannot be gotten from food anywhere on the planet!! Things like that just don't get addressed, same as why does Venus face Earth when they are closest all the time??

It points towards supplementation as being necessary. You have to learn to have an open opinion when it comes to nutrition research and yes, the supplement companies are nearly as greedy and one-sided as big pharma so you have to do continual research to get to the bottom of things.......