Meanwhile in France....

[Tsing Tao]

I've said it before, cons in DC have been pushing their luck for far too long and pussy pushover dems acquiescing to their every move will eventually need to move the fuck out of the way to accelerationists if they don't massively course correct. Now watch as Biden "compromises" by cutting social spending for the debt ceiling.

We could cut aid to the Ukraine - that would help. But its hard when you support paying for a proxy war with Russia, while at the same time complain when social programs get targeted. I'm all for cutting back all military/economic aid to a whole host of countries to support social programs you want to keep or enhance. All for it. What about you?

Most of the folks in the Russia/Ukraine war supporting for this war (including you) have no problems spending money there, do ya? And most of them are liberals - which is shocking. You guys used to be all about no military expansion and intervention. Then something changed.

 

[Cuddles]

We seem to be hellbent on returning to feudalism.

You should read up on the new child labor law provisions MAGAs are ramming on ppl.

 

[elderado]

I watched that live as it was being streamed on Youtube. I have some relatives from South France that went up to Paris to participate in the protests.

If that occurred in France...protestors would burn down the country. U.S. markets and European markets are very nervous right now.

People of Protest

wrbtrader

Sure you do. What kind of jobs do they have the allow them this kind of time off?

 

[UsualName]

Thanks for pointing out the bravery of the French for sacrificing wages and fighting for their rights during a working month.

Only certain sectors of the economy. Below explanation from Quora and it saves me the time of explaining why its a Yes and No.....

As background, remember that vacation days are earn only by long term employee, by Law, the vacation period can be forced by the employer and school break is two months long in Summer. Standard vacation is equivalent to 4–5 weeks for employee (paid leave)

Manufacturing workers will by tradition and convenience for the employer be put on vacation in the July - August. It will propagate also to all the supply chain factory. That will eat up 2–3 weeks of vacation and the remainder will be a discretion of the employee with agreement from the company.

White collar workers will also take time off during that period, with priority for those with children of school age. That generally will be a down in economic activity in the service industry/sales.

It cascade and so a lot of service which make their business with the activity will also experience a drop in business, they will shut down too.

Most of the resorts/restaurant staff are seasonal workers, extra hands employed for the seasons to cater to the extra activity. As temporary worker, they do not earn vacation days or little and it’s up to them between two contracts to manage their time. Long term employee will have their vacations credits and take time off during low activity period.

Relatives there in France are traditionalists, known as aoûtiens, who take off August instead of July (known as juillettistes). Traffic sucks big time there because those that took off in July are returning at about the same time as those leaving work in August.

wrbtrader

Excuse me if there was any misunderstanding. My point in citing the long summer break in France is that these people take their leisure very seriously. Which is not a bad thing imo. They don’t want to work year round or into their twilight years and you know what, good for them!

In America we have the latest retirement age and the shortest life expectancy in the western world. Neither of those things are good.

There are too many stupid people in America who think they are smart and they are getting shortchanged fighting a culture war that has nothing to do with them. I say be like the French!

The irony that @Tsing Tao liked my post is tres magnifique.

 

[wrbtrader]

Sure you do. What kind of jobs do they have the allow them this kind of time off?

One is retired, one is the owner of a business (soon to retire), one is a student, and one is on vacation.

wrbtrader

 

[Cuddles]

Excuse me if there was any misunderstanding. My point in citing the long summer break in France is that these people take their leisure very seriously. Which is not a bad thing imo. They don’t want to work year round or into their twilight years and you know what, good for them!

In America we have the latest retirement age and the shortest life expectancy in the western world. Neither of those things are good.

There are too many stupid people in America who think they are smart and they are getting shortchanged fighting a culture war that has nothing to do with them. I say be like the French!

The irony that @Tsing Tao liked my post is tres magnifique.

My bad. I read that post as a dig at the "laziness" perception of the Euros we've been sold on, and needing to be more like "inverse redistributing Americans." I guess tsing has bought into that perception hence the 'like'.

 

[wrbtrader]

Excuse me if there was any misunderstanding. My point in citing the long summer break in France is that these people take their leisure very seriously. Which is not a bad thing imo. They don’t want to work year round or into their twilight years and you know what, good for them!

In America we have the latest retirement age and the shortest life expectancy in the western world. Neither of those things are good.

There are too many stupid people in America who think they are smart and they are getting shortchanged fighting a culture war that has nothing to do with them. I say be like the French!

France is not the only country that has mandatory shutdowns for certain industries. Here in Québec, Canada the Construction industry has a mandatory shutdown.

• https://www.cute-calendar.com/event/construction-holiday/41522.html

Also, women that are pregnant in certain industry groups (e.g. jobs in hospitals) are put on mandatory paid leave during pregnancy and I believe about 5 weeks after the birth of the child...including the father.

My point, countries like France and Canada take their social services very seriously especially vacations because it's a time to be with family, rest, and re-energize. If the governments tried to take that away...protestors will in fact burn down the country.

Other types of protests, I've seen violent (maybe unusual is a better word) protests in France by Farmers about potatoes...

Protesting French Farmers Dump Manure, Rats and Potatoes in Paris. Farmers in France protest government agricultural policies by dumping manure in front of government buildings, pelting police with apples and dropping a massive mound of potatoes in the middle of Paris.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/protesting-french-farmers-dump-manure-rats-potatoes-paris-n242756



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