McChrystal to Obama... "Go F*CK YOURSELF"!

Quote from Scataphagos:

McChrystal knew what he was doing. Serious stuff when you call bullshit on the Big Boss. McChrystal sacrificed his career for his honor and the lives of his men. The Founding Fathers would give him "two thumbs up".

Yeh - two thumbs up his ass. A military General is there to take orders from his Commander In Chief. He should be thrown in jail.
 
McChrystal supported Afghan opium production/narcotics trafficking.

And how can the US "win" Afghanistan? Afghans are fanatically religious goat-herders living in the bronze age. They're totally backward. Where is the common ground?

To win Afghanistan, we ought to bring 90% of our forces home, deploy them on the border, and leave the other 10% behind to eradicate the poppy fields.

The Taliban are financed by the Afghan opium fields American troops guard.
 
Quote from tmarket:

Article 88, Code of Military Justice states:
“Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

McChrystal should not accept any of Barry's invitations until he sees the full birth certificate. I wonder, would Barry be prepared to go to the supreme court where he might be required to produce it as evidence.
 
Quote from NeoRio1:

Even a bum on the street knows we have the most powerful military in the world. Therefore people will attribute failure in Afghanistan to politicians and military leaders, not the actual military. Your argument is like telling a blind person to shoot at targets from a far range with the most powerful sniper rifle in the world. The blind person then misses all the targets and then you say that this test is a major blow to the guns ability. The gun may indeed be innaccurate but you need an accurate shooter to test accuracy. Obama is not an accurate shooter.

I'm not sure if we are disagreeing or agreeing. Obviously, Obama is a weak, ineffectual leader who few if any real military men could stomach as their Commander in Chief. However, McCrystal claims he voted for Obama, so that gives me pause about McCrystal's judgment.

As for afghanistan, my point was that Bush did not exactly leave Obama a real strong hand to play. At this point, I'm not sure there is a winning strategy. The one we seem to be following, ie force the corrupt Karzai government down the throats of resistant afghans, is doomed. I fail to see how it justifies any American lives or taxpayer money.

It is ironic, considering what a pompous windbag he is, but I have to say I think Biden's plan was the only sensible one I have heard. Put troops on the border to deter incursions and let the afghans sort the rest of it out for themselves. Of course, McCrystal, drunk on nation-building fantasies, derided Biden as an idiot. Which makes more sense, a plan that has a limited but achievable goal or one that would require ten years or more of occupation and trillions of taxpayer money, with no guarantee of success?
 
So, McChrystal is out. Good for him. Fell on his own sword for principle. A modern day Fletcher Christian.

Then, Obam and Gibbs "question whether McChrystal has the maturity to lead the operation"? What? Are you kidding? A 4-Star? Was not his leadership ability a question each time he was considered for promotion?

What about Obama's "maturity to lead"?

Obama and Gibbs make me wanna PUKE!

:mad:
 
Quote from achilles28:

McChrystal supported Afghan opium production/narcotics trafficking.

And how can the US "win" Afghanistan? Afghans are fanatically religious goat-herders living in the bronze age. They're totally backward. Where is the common ground?

To win Afghanistan, we ought to bring 90% of our forces home, deploy them on the border, and leave the other 10% behind to eradicate the poppy fields.

The Taliban are financed by the Afghan opium fields American troops guard.

You claim to be Canadian yet you refer to American troops as "our forces"?
 
Recent discoveries of huge rare earth metal deposits may help to
stabilize Afganistan ...as well as the thining out of some mentally defective leadership.
 
Quote from omegapoint:

Recent discoveries of huge rare earth metal deposits may help to
stabilize Afganistan ...as well as the thining out of some mentally defective leadership.


And article at businessinsider.com stated that the recent discovery of vast mineral deposits in afghanistan may have had something to do with an upcoming auction of ......mineral rights in afghanistan.

Funny how that works, isn't it.
 
Quote from Shagi:

Yeh - two thumbs up his ass. A military General is there to take orders from his Commander In Chief. He should be thrown in jail.

The Military Oath


The Commissioning Oath

"I, _____ , having been appointed an officer in the (Service) of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)


Generals are to support the constitution, not the president. It even says "against all enemies, foreign or DOMESTIC. Domestic that could mean our current politicians.
 
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