McCain's VP Pick

Quote from cuz69:

I agree and disagree with you.
I understand he needs to attack the Rep for his motives, but to compare the 2 is foolish, because they disagree on so many issues.
As far as Congress......either one will have to deal with those issues, because we do not yet know who will control the house.
Seats will definitely be moving.

cuz69,

is it not a fact that McCain votes 90-95% similar to Bush policy?
:)
 
Quote from Gringinho:

cuz69,

is it not a fact that McCain votes 90-95% similar to Bush policy?
:)

No it's a distortion of the truth........and yes not saying they don't vote similarily. But on key issues they differ bigtime, and thats where it counts.
Not BS meanigless issues
 
Quote from brocklanders:

clacy and cuz69-- learn to spell. is speaches the plural of speach or speech? are you the same person? very odd misspelling for two different people in the same thread.

Come on brock, it's an internet forum. Spelling errors are the norm.
 
Quote from cuz69:

No it's a distortion of the truth........and yes not saying they don't vote similarily. But on key issues they differ bigtime, and thats where it counts.
Not BS meanigless issues

So then... for normal people, the electorate - who is going to be most different to the Bush era - McCain or Obama?

I think you are right that some important issues do count more, but it all becomes "technicalities" - and the voters are not that well-informed - unfortunately.
:)

PS! For spelling errors - use Firefox and the built-in automatic spelling checking/correction. You can even have a lot of languages if you know more than one.
 
Quote from CollegeTrader:

I will address the debt issue. First of all if this misguided war continues 9 trillion dollars will soon escalade even higher. This is borrowed money. I mean eventually its going to be time to pay. For the sake of this argument ill state im 19 years old. For the rest of my life and much there after Americans will pay for a war we saw no benefit of, and cant be won. Obama is smart by trying to make tuition more affordable because the future of America is at the mercy of educated people. I mean look at other countries our education system is falling way behind. Yes taxes..i hate that word too but YES they need to be raised on people of wealth. At the moment their may not be enough wealthy people but we do have to start somewhere. Those who can afford it are those who have to pay. i believe it was the famous PAUL TUTDOR JONES that said credit ruins all great societys. We have a chance right now to change. The American people cant afford to say 4 years down the road oh crap look at this mess.

Yes of course it's "borrowed money" that's what debt is. Of course we'll have to pay it back in the future or inflate our way out of it. Either way, it's not going to be good for young people. Military spending is actually a MUCH smaller percentage to GDP than it has been historically. I personally think there are way too many countries that place no value on human life to "not keep our military strong".

So tell me how Obama will reduce the national debt? He will do the exact same thing that McCain will do with Iraq, becuase it's already being won and will be winding down over there in the next two years. We're too close to victory for Obama to let that slip away. Both Presidents will keep our troops there long enough to win that war completely and then add troops to Afghanistan as we draw down in Iraq.

Also, did you know that we had more military deaths during the Clinton years than we've had under Bush? Bet you didn't know that.

I will be paying my share as well, as I'm 33, which means I'll probably be workign for at least 20-30 more years, minimum.

Yes our educational system is falling behind, but it's not the university level that is the problem here. It's the public school system. College is actually very affordable, IMO, as there are many local colleges, in virtually every city or region, that are funded by tax payers already.

Free health care sounds fantastic. Please show me a country that has a free system that I'd like to switch with. I don't believe there are any. I really don't want to die of cancer while I'm waiting to see a nepheroligist, so that he can refer me to a general surgeon 4 months later.
 
clacy,

USA spends more on the military and defence than the rest of the world together. Therein lies a great factor for how polarizing the US is towards the rest of the world - "with us, or against us".
 
Quote from Gringinho:

clacy,

USA spends more on the military and defence than the rest of the world together. Therein lies a great factor for how polarizing the US is towards the rest of the world - "with us, or against us".

That fact sure helps me sleep better at night.

We have 5% of the worlds population and 25% of the wealth. We kind of need a strong military or another nation(s) will eventually want some of our "stuff".

I want to keep "my stuff", don't you?
 
Quote from clacy:

Yes of course it's "borrowed money" that's what debt is. Of course we'll have to pay it back in the future or inflate our way out of it. Either way, it's not going to be good for young people. Military spending is actually a MUCH smaller percentage to GDP than it has been historically. I personally think there are way too many countries that place no value on human life to "not keep our military strong".

So tell me how Obama will reduce the national debt? He will do the exact same thing that McCain will do with Iraq, becuase it's already being won and will be winding down over there in the next two years. We're too close to victory for Obama to let that slip away. Both Presidents will keep our troops there long enough to win that war completely and then add troops to Afghanistan as we draw down in Iraq.

Also, did you know that we had more military deaths during the Clinton years than we've had under Bush? Bet you didn't know that.

I will be paying my share as well, as I'm 33, which means I'll probably be workign for at least 20-30 more years, minimum.

Yes our educational system is falling behind, but it's not the university level that is the problem here. It's the public school system. College is actually very affordable, IMO, as there are many local colleges, in virtually every city or region, that are funded by tax payers already.

Free health care sounds fantastic. Please show me a country that has a free system that I'd like to switch with. I don't believe there are any. I really don't want to die of cancer while I'm waiting to see a nepheroligist, so that he can refer me to a general surgeon 4 months later.


Where in the world did you get the false belief that we lost more military personel under Clinton than we did under Bush!?!?!?

We had 13 military death under Clinton.

It isn't what we don't know that hurts us the most, it's what we "know" that isn't true.
 
Whatever partisan supporters think, it's the swing voters who matter and hold the balance of power.
They will be influenced greatly by whoever comes off better in the televised Presidential debates.
 
FIGURES ARE CONFIRMED ON DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE SITE
1980 2,392
1981 2,380
1982 2,319
1983 2,465
1984 1,999
1985 2,252
1986 1,984
1987 1,983
1988 1,819
1989 1,636
1990 1,507
1991 1,787
1992 1,293
1993 1,213
1994 1,075
1995 1,040
1996 974
1997 817
1998 827
1999 796
2000 758
2001 891
2002 999
2003 1,410 534*
2004 1,887 900*
2005 919*
2006 920*
* Figures are Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring
Freedom fatalities only

Probably a few more under Bush, but lets face it, all in all considering the hand that Bush was dealt, we've had pretty damn low casualties.
 
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