McCain says Trump has two choices on wiretap claim: provide evidence or retract

Not taking any sides here as i think there is still a gigantic leap of faith required to pin this directly on Obama, butttt....

This just released from CNN, Note the author of this Story, Jake Tapper, the one guy on CNN who i just told Tsing i have faith in as a hard news reporter. Im still skeptical of where this all leads, but there might be a there, there.

For Adam Schiff a dem from California to sign onto this, there must be something unusual here, cause its going to be the kiss of death for his career if he wrongfully implicates the obama admin here.

Faith in Jake Tapper CONFIRMED, faith in CNN still at all time lows. :D

House Intel Committee seeks names of Obama officials who requested 'unmasking' of Americans picked up on surveillance

(CNN)The leaders of the House Intelligence Committee asked the three leaders of the intelligence community Wednesday about any time during the last seven months of the Obama administration whenever any of its agents and officials improperly named, or "unmasked," and disseminated the identities of American citizens picked up in intelligence collection.

Chairman Devin Nunes, R-California, and Ranking Member Rep. Adam Schiff, D-California, wrote that they were concerned that members of the intelligence community have not been sufficiently honoring previously established "robust 'minimization procedures'" to protect the identities of US citizens, including "masking" their names. The letter they sent refers to the disclosure to the public that former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn had several conversations with the Russian Ambassador.
The matter is relevant not only because of the House Intelligence Committee's responsibility to conduct oversight of the intelligence community, but also as it may relate to surveillance of Russians known to US intelligence or any others who may have spoken with any advisers or individuals around then-candidate Donald Trump.

Nunes and Schiff asked the intelligence community leaders to disclose any "unmasked" identities that were disseminated throughout the intelligence community, law enforcement, or among senior Obama administration officials from June 2016 until January 2017 that relate to Trump or Hillary Clinton and their associates.

An informed source told CNN that if Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak was being surveilled, Flynn's name should not necessarily have been included on the intelligence report. Rather, "American Citizen 1" or a similar anonymous term should have been used.

"However, as recent news stories, seem to illustrate, individuals talking to the media would appear to have wantonly disregarded these procedures," Nunes and Schiff wrote. The congressmen also asked the names of individuals or agencies who "requested and/or authorized the unmasking and dissemination" of these identities.

The letter was addressed to Admiral Michael Rogers, the director of the National Security Agency; FBI Director James Comey; and CIA Director Mike Pompeo. The acting Director of National Intelligence Michael Dempsey was also included.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/15/politics/house-intelligence-committee-unmasking/index.html


I've been thinking about this for the last few days how they always come back with the 'trump people weren't wiretapped. they just picked up people like flynn from wiretapping the russians' excuse.

I had read somewhere that names of people who aren't on the wiretap are to be redacted, put away and forgotten.

The inescapable conclusion is that either trump's associates were wiretapped or they were not redacted like they're supposed to be, in effect wiretapping someone that they have no legal right to wiretap.

It must be one or the other and I hope they don't sweep it all under the rug if it turns out our ic was illegally wiretapping by not redacting.
 
Yeah im hesitant at this point to jump to any conclusions, but something is coming about the intelligence community, there is way to many non answers here, im not willing to dive head on into this yet, but like you im starting to grow more and more suspicion the more my bullshit detector goes off.

Btw. Trump used the exact same B.S. on Tucker Carlson tonight, when asked about his tax returns his response was, "well i can guarantee the WHITEHOUSE did not release these returns." or something along those lines.

This is the kind of nonspeak world these guys live in, denials that will hold up in the court of law, but never full denials, its an instant sign of bullshit when i see this happening cause ive seen it so many times from CEO's now.

MSCI was a perfect example today, gaps up 15$ on fake take out rumours, CEO comes out and flat out denies they even spoke to anyone about a buyout, it was clearly bullshit so i was shorting it all the way down to 105.75 where it halted, thought i might be screwed on the halt but it reopened gap down and went to 97, easy money if you pay attention cause a CEO isnt allowed to lie about material information. If it had happened he would have given non speak political b.s. One of the few rock solid edges we have in the market these days is the ability to analyse information properly, the algos have already cooked us on most of the technical edges, so i trade accordingly.

I've been thinking about this for the last few days how they always come back with the 'trump people weren't wiretapped. they just picked up people like flynn from wiretapping the russians' excuse.

I had read somewhere that names of people who aren't on the wiretap are to be redacted, put away and forgotten.

The inescapable conclusion is that either trump's associates were wiretapped or they were not redacted like they're supposed to be, in effect wiretapping someone that they have no legal right to wiretap.

It must be one or the other and I hope they don't sweep it all under the rug if it turns out our ic was illegally wiretapping by not redacting.
 
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So Obama had no idea about the joint FBI/DNI investigation into Trump prior to the election.

Ah. Right. Okay guys.

Keep waxing on.
 
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So Obama had no idea about the joint FBI/DNI investigation into Trump prior to the election.

Ah. Right. Okay guys.

Keep waxing on.


LOL, dude your getting way to heated about it, your letting emotions cloud judgement, so far my only opinon is that there is some bullshit going on, id say if that bullshit is going on in the intelligence agencies, odds are Obama knew about it, but like ive said many times, nothing will ever lead back to him, hes a lawyer, you think when he managed to dodge Fast and Furious, IRS, etc, etc that he suddenly got himself tangled up in this? Some how i doubt it.

Take a step back, take a breath and try to analyze it as an outsider, with no preconcieved notions, if you stubbornly dive headfirst into everything that meets some of your assumptions right off the bat without thinking about it, it leads to train wrecks both in life, and also in the market.
 
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LOL, dude your getting way to heated about it, your letting emotions cloud judgement, so far my only opinon is that there is some bullshit going on, id say if that bullshit is going on in the intelligence agencies, odds are Obama knew about it, but like ive said many times, nothing will ever lead back to him, hes a lawyer, you think when he managed to dodge Fast and Furious, IRS, etc, etc that he suddenly got himself tangled up in this? Some how i doubt it.

Take a step back, take a breath and try to analyze it as an outsider, with no preconcieved notions, if you stubbornly dive headfirst into everything that meets some of your assumptions right off the bat without thinking about it, it leads to train wrecks both in life, and also in the market.

Imagine Republicans managed to get Hillary assassinated within 6 months in office.

You telling me with a straight face shit wouldn't go down. Listen. The guys on the right believe what Trump says. You may think half of it is a joke, and thats fine. That's your opinion. We don't. We actually believe what he's saying. So if he's taken out, there's gunna be a problem. Swing voters aren't going to understand the rage on the right, cause they aren't one. It's there. And that's what got this crazy nut into the White House.

This is all just one part of a larger attempt to take out Trump. How many times does the media, Hillary, Obama, the Government, his own Party, have to badmouth and shit talk Trump before you get it they mean to take him out, aka discredit him, by any means necessary.

How many years will it take before you guys finally admit it yourselves. Wtf. lol

There's a theme here? See the theme? Over the past 2 years?

This is just the next movement, in that theme? RIght?

DISCREDIT TRUMP.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooo


noooooooooooooo wiretaps ever happened .... fuck . it just doesn't happen these days.

okay okay.

I'll go back to my charts. You guys are too rational for me
 
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Trump is in office for 4 years, then re-elections.
Why can't people just let him get on with what he offered people to do??????

It's normal to death threat the president now. Discrediation campaigns are also now normal. This shit never happened before.
 
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