McCain says Trump has two choices on wiretap claim: provide evidence or retract

[CaptainObvious]

No, which is precisely why good conservatives need to hold themselves to higher standards.

Two guys are in a fight to the death. One has standards, the other has none. The one with standards better be one tough mofo, or he's going to die. I don't see many tough mofo's on the high standard side of the isle, if there is such a thing at all in politics.

 

[fhl]

That is a false comparison. Trump pulled the Obama accusation out of his ass when he didn't like where the Sessions thing was going.
Whereas the intelligence community collectively concurred that Russia meddled. You think they're all political appointees and politically motivated, and as full of crap as Trump's tweets? That's a stretch.

You do have a poor image of Trump. You think he's less credible than a group of people who hack into the private lives of individuals, place malware on their computers and steal information, and then try to frame a third party for the nefarious deed.
That's really a low blow, fred.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

You do have a poor image of Trump. You think he's less credible than a group of people who hack into the private lives of individuals, place malware on their computers and steal information, and then try to frame a third party for the nefarious deed.
That's really a low blow, fred.

Cool narrative, bro. But you are trying to compare the people who keep you safe to the ignorant ego who will leave you stranded the moment it suits him.

 

[fhl]

Cool narrative, bro. But you are trying to compare the people who keep you safe to the ignorant ego who will leave you stranded the moment it suits him.

I don't think teaming up with ISIS and defining Russia and Assad as my enemies are going to keep me safe. I believe just the opposite would be safer for all of us.
Thank God Trump does, too.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

I don't think teaming up with ISIS and defining Russia and Assad as my enemies are going to keep me safe. I believe just the opposite would be safer for all of us.
Thank God Trump does, too.

Well, he knows more than the generals do..."believe me."

 

[fhl]

Well, he knows more than the generals do..."believe me."

Never mind the generals approach has destabilized the entire middle east and sent almost 5 million refugees scurrying to europe, playing havoc with its welfare, too.

Sad!

 

[Tsing Tao]

I gave your post a "like" but I disagree with this part. That is a false comparison. Trump pulled the Obama accusation out of his ass when he didn't like where the Sessions thing was going. Whereas the intelligence community collectively concurred that Russia meddled. You think they're all political appointees and politically motivated, and as full of crap as Trump's tweets? That's a stretch. You and I both know Trump has a tumor growing on his ego. I think, by and large, the intelligence community has higher standards. So let's not compare the two.

Not going to get into this with you again, Fred. I've stated my position more times than I can count. Both situations had accusations with no proof. End of story.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Two guys are in a fight to the death. One has standards, the other has none. The one with standards better be one tough mofo, or he's going to die. I don't see many tough mofo's on the high standard side of the isle, if there is such a thing at all in politics.

That isn't a valid analogy, Cap'n. If I follow your rules, I should go find muslims in ISIS controlled cities and rape and kill their women and children simply because ISIS soldiers do it. We should also be sending suicide bombers into muslim radical cities and towns. What separates us from our enemy is precisely our adherence to values. Weren't you a jarhead? The concept of honor should have appeal to you.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Not going to get into this with you again, Fred. I've stated my position more times than I can count. Both situations had accusations with no proof. End of story.

Whose "judgment" are you more likely to trust when it comes to cancer? An oncologist or a naturopath?

 

[CaptainObvious]

That isn't a valid analogy, Cap'n. If I follow your rules, I should go find muslims in ISIS controlled cities and rape and kill their women and children simply because ISIS soldiers do it. We should also be sending suicide bombers into muslim radical cities and towns. What separates us from our enemy is precisely our adherence to values. Weren't you a jarhead? The concept of honor should have appeal to you.

You're right to a degree that I compared politics to something distinctly different. However, I do believe that if your epitaph reads, they followed all the rules, while the enemy does a victory dance on your grave, honor doesn't mean much at that point. You don't have to rape and kill women and children to win a war, but you do need to get your hands dirty and some tactics may be less than appealing. An unwillingness to do that assures defeat.
Trump isn't afraid to play in the mud. This is something new for the left to digest while they make their own wild assed, completely unfounded claims of impropriety. Yeah, it's schoolyard crap, but that's where we're at.