MAUNA LOA - Atmospheric CO2 Hits 400 Parts Per Million Mark

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Quote from nitro:


This is a mark not seen in millenia. We are half way to a probably catastrophic 800 ppm, where all the ice on earth will melt and bring the sea level up to 80 mSheeters.

An intelligent person should not follow propaganda.

If what they say would happen could happen, it would be great for planet earth. Unfortunately, the planet would get colder, and oil prices will get higher. People would die out of bitter cold, lack of vitamin D, and other cold-caused diseases.

People are moving from north to south in search of warm weather.

Humans do not want to realize they are insignificant. Planet earth has been here for millions of years, and will be here for millions of years. In the big scale of time, the humans of our time, are in the very early beginnings of life on earth. We will be looked upon in the million of years to come as one of the pre-pre-pre....(a million times)pre- historic people.

 

[tradingjournals]

Quote from futurecurrents:

Totally and absolutely false. There has been NO pause in warming of the earth.

Let earth alone. I want warmer weather, but it is getting colder.

Do you still support that movement that defends some acts that some animals do? Aren't you concerned about the spread of diseases and the continuity of the human race?

 

[jem]

more co2 more plants more cooling says NASA study / model.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fe...ant-growth.html


1. A new NASA computer modeling effort has found that additional growth of plants and trees in a world with doubled atmospheric carbon dioxide levels would create a new negative feedback – a cooling effect – in the Earth's climate system that could work to reduce future global warming.

The cooling effect would be -0.3 degrees Celsius (C) (-0.5 Fahrenheit (F)) globally and -0.6 degrees C (-1.1 F) over land, compared to simulations where the feedback was not included, said Lahouari Bounoua, of Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. Bounoua is lead author on a paper detailing the results that will be published Dec. 7 in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.


2. CO2 is a powerful coolant and thermostat per NASA science.



http://science.nasa.gov/science-new...12/22mar_saber/


Mlynczak is the associate principal investigator for the SABER instrument onboard NASA’s TIMED satellite. SABER monitors infrared emissions from Earth’s upper atmosphere, in particular from carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitric oxide (NO), two substances that play a key role in the energy balance of air hundreds of km above our planet’s surface.
“Carbon dioxide and nitric oxide are natural thermostats,” explains James Russell of Hampton University, SABER’s principal investigator. “When the upper atmosphere (or ‘thermosphere’) heats up, these molecules try as hard as they can to shed that heat back into space.”
That’s what happened on March 8th when a coronal mass ejection (CME) propelled in our direction by an X5-class solar flare hit Earth’s magnetic field. (On the “Richter Scale of Solar Flares,” X-class flares are the most powerful kind.) Energetic particles rained down on the upper atmosphere, depositing their energy where they hit. The action produced spectacular auroras around the poles and significant1 upper atmospheric heating all around the globe.
“The thermosphere lit up like a Christmas tree,” says Russell. “It began to glow intensely at infrared wavelengths as the thermostat effect kicked in.”
For the three day period, March 8th through 10th, the thermosphere absorbed 26 billion kWh of energy. Infrared radiation from CO2 and NO, the two most efficient coolants in the thermosphere, re-radiated 95% of that total back into space.

3. Change in co2 follow but lag change in ocean temps.


Using data series on atmospheric carbon dioxide and global temperatures we investigate the phase relation (leads/lags) between these for the period January 1980 to December 2011. Ice cores show atmospheric CO2 variations to lag behind atmospheric temperature changes on a century to millennium scale, but modern temperature is expected to lag changes in atmospheric CO2, as the atmospheric temperature increase since about 1975 generally is assumed to be caused by the modern increase in CO2. In our analysis we use eight well-known datasets; 1) globally averaged well-mixed marine boundary layer CO2 data, 2) HadCRUT3 surface air temperature data, 3) GISS surface air temperature data, 4) NCDC surface air temperature data, 5) HadSST2 sea surface data, 6) UAH lower troposphere temperature data series, 7) CDIAC data on release of anthropogene CO2, and 8) GWP data on volcanic eruptions. Annual cycles are present in all datasets except 7) and 8), and to remove the influence of these we analyze 12-month averaged data. We find a high degree of co-variation between all data series except 7) and 8), but with changes in CO2 always lagging changes in temperature. The maximum positive correlation between CO2 and temperature is found for CO2 lagging 11–12 months in relation to global sea surface temperature, 9.5-10 months to global surface air temperature, and about 9 months to global lower troposphere temperature. The correlation between changes in ocean temperatures and atmospheric CO2 is high, but do not explain all observed changes.



See: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.gloplacha.2012.08.008





The highlights of the paper are:

► The overall global temperature change sequence of events appears to be from 1) the ocean surface to 2) the land surface to 3) the lower troposphere.

► Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging about 11–12 months behind changes in global sea surface temperature.

► Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging 9.5-10 months behind changes in global air surface temperature.

► Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging about 9 months behind changes in global lower troposphere temperature.

► Changes in ocean temperatures appear to explain a substantial part of the observed changes in atmospheric CO2 since January 1980.

► CO2 released from use of fossil fuels have little influence on the observed changes in the amount of atmospheric CO2, and changes in atmospheric CO2 are not tracking changes in human emissions.

The paper:

The phase relation between atmospheric carbon dioxide and global temperature

Ole Humluma, b,
Kjell Stordahlc,
Jan-Erik Solheimd

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/08/...global-warming/

 

[CaptainObvious]

Quote from futurecurrents:

Totally and absolutely false. There has been NO pause in warming of the earth.

To continue to repeat this falsehood is simply ignorant.

I'm sorry that the facts don't fit your political agenda, but the change in temp over the last 15 years has been statistically insignificant. The GW cultists have been predicting the end of the world for nearly 5 decades. One can easily find articles from the 60's and 70's stating that we'd all be dead by 2000, yet here we sit 7 days from 2014 and the temperature is actually cooling. Keep up the good fight though. Eventually you'll be right that there will be a dramatic climate shift, like all the other times before...before a single smoke stack ever rose to the sky. Before a single combustion engine ever fired up. Before one fossil fuel was ever burned in a power plant. You have zero evidence that the next time will have any different cause that the last time, and time before that, and time before that, and time before that, and time before that, and time before that, and time before that, and time before that...you get the idea.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from CaptainObvious:

I'm sorry that the facts don't fit your political agenda, but the change in temp over the last 15 years has been statistically insignificant. The GW cultists have been predicting the end of the world for nearly 5 decades. One can easily find articles from the 60's and 70's stating that we'd all be dead by 2000, yet here we sit 7 days from 2014 and the temperature is actually cooling. Keep up the good fight though. Eventually you'll be right that there will be a dramatic climate shift, like all the other times before...before a single smoke stack ever rose to the sky. Before a single combustion engine ever fired up. Before one fossil fuel was ever burned in a power plant. You have zero evidence that the next time will have any different cause that the last time, and time before that, and time before that, and time before that, and time before that, and time before that, and time before that, and time before that...you get the idea.

Let's see.

First sentence; wrong. Second entence; wrong. Third sentence; wrong.

Three strikes and you're an idiot.
And then you do even worse with the next sentences.
Stop wasting my time. Try again.

 

[futurecurrents]

Jem, you should start looking into geo-engineering. Your horse is dead, stop beating it.

Quote from jem:

more co2 more plants more cooling says NASA study / model.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fe...ant-growth.html


1. A new NASA computer modeling effort has found that additional growth of plants and trees in a world with doubled atmospheric carbon dioxide levels would create a new negative feedback – a cooling effect – in the Earth's climate system that could work to reduce future global warming.

The cooling effect would be -0.3 degrees Celsius (C) (-0.5 Fahrenheit (F)) globally and -0.6 degrees C (-1.1 F) over land, compared to simulations where the feedback was not included, said Lahouari Bounoua, of Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. Bounoua is lead author on a paper detailing the results that will be published Dec. 7 in the journal Geophysical Research Letters.


2. CO2 is a powerful coolant and thermostat per NASA science.



http://science.nasa.gov/science-new...12/22mar_saber/


Mlynczak is the associate principal investigator for the SABER instrument onboard NASA’s TIMED satellite. SABER monitors infrared emissions from Earth’s upper atmosphere, in particular from carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitric oxide (NO), two substances that play a key role in the energy balance of air hundreds of km above our planet’s surface.
“Carbon dioxide and nitric oxide are natural thermostats,” explains James Russell of Hampton University, SABER’s principal investigator. “When the upper atmosphere (or ‘thermosphere’) heats up, these molecules try as hard as they can to shed that heat back into space.”
That’s what happened on March 8th when a coronal mass ejection (CME) propelled in our direction by an X5-class solar flare hit Earth’s magnetic field. (On the “Richter Scale of Solar Flares,” X-class flares are the most powerful kind.) Energetic particles rained down on the upper atmosphere, depositing their energy where they hit. The action produced spectacular auroras around the poles and significant1 upper atmospheric heating all around the globe.
“The thermosphere lit up like a Christmas tree,” says Russell. “It began to glow intensely at infrared wavelengths as the thermostat effect kicked in.”
For the three day period, March 8th through 10th, the thermosphere absorbed 26 billion kWh of energy. Infrared radiation from CO2 and NO, the two most efficient coolants in the thermosphere, re-radiated 95% of that total back into space.

3. Change in co2 follow but lag change in ocean temps.


Using data series on atmospheric carbon dioxide and global temperatures we investigate the phase relation (leads/lags) between these for the period January 1980 to December 2011. Ice cores show atmospheric CO2 variations to lag behind atmospheric temperature changes on a century to millennium scale, but modern temperature is expected to lag changes in atmospheric CO2, as the atmospheric temperature increase since about 1975 generally is assumed to be caused by the modern increase in CO2. In our analysis we use eight well-known datasets; 1) globally averaged well-mixed marine boundary layer CO2 data, 2) HadCRUT3 surface air temperature data, 3) GISS surface air temperature data, 4) NCDC surface air temperature data, 5) HadSST2 sea surface data, 6) UAH lower troposphere temperature data series, 7) CDIAC data on release of anthropogene CO2, and 8) GWP data on volcanic eruptions. Annual cycles are present in all datasets except 7) and 8), and to remove the influence of these we analyze 12-month averaged data. We find a high degree of co-variation between all data series except 7) and 8), but with changes in CO2 always lagging changes in temperature. The maximum positive correlation between CO2 and temperature is found for CO2 lagging 11–12 months in relation to global sea surface temperature, 9.5-10 months to global surface air temperature, and about 9 months to global lower troposphere temperature. The correlation between changes in ocean temperatures and atmospheric CO2 is high, but do not explain all observed changes.



See: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.gloplacha.2012.08.008





The highlights of the paper are:

► The overall global temperature change sequence of events appears to be from 1) the ocean surface to 2) the land surface to 3) the lower troposphere.

► Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging about 11–12 months behind changes in global sea surface temperature.

► Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging 9.5-10 months behind changes in global air surface temperature.

► Changes in global atmospheric CO2 are lagging about 9 months behind changes in global lower troposphere temperature.

► Changes in ocean temperatures appear to explain a substantial part of the observed changes in atmospheric CO2 since January 1980.

► CO2 released from use of fossil fuels have little influence on the observed changes in the amount of atmospheric CO2, and changes in atmospheric CO2 are not tracking changes in human emissions.

The paper:

The phase relation between atmospheric carbon dioxide and global temperature

Ole Humluma, b,
Kjell Stordahlc,
Jan-Erik Solheimd

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/08/...global-warming/

 

[Fractals 'R Us]

It's insulting to God to say the He/She can't make a planet that self-adjusts it's temperature. Take it up with God, quit bothering people with this trash...

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from Fractals 'R Us:

It's insulting to God to say the He/She can't make a planet that self-adjusts it's temperature. Take it up with God, quit bothering people with this trash...

Ha ha. Good one.

You ARE kidding right?

 

[CaptainObvious]

Quote from futurecurrents:

Let's see.

First sentence; wrong. Second entence; wrong. Third sentence; wrong.

Three strikes and you're an idiot.
And then you do even worse with the next sentences.
Stop wasting my time. Try again.

Like the creationist true believer, you choose to ignore any and all facts that dispute your belief system. Cults are like that. Kinda' sad really. Years have turned to decades, and decades have run into half a century of GW cultists making wild eyed claims, none of which have even come close to explaining actual current events.

 

[futurecurrents]

Quote from CaptainObvious:

Years have turned to decades, and decades have run into half a century of GW cultists making wild eyed claims, none of which have even come close to explaining actual current events.

What the fuck are you talking about? AGW was predicted back in the seventies and it is happening and current events are well explained by GW science.

You're not only striking out, you're facing the wrong way at the plate. Get a clue.