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LV 26:22 GOD sends out "wild beasts" to "rob you of your children, destroy your cattle, make you few in number, and your highways shall be desolate."

So when god sends wild animals to kill children,
please explain how these CHILDREN were not innocent :p

Give me a break Doubter..... you wont be able to
split hairs on this one. There is just too much material
in the bible for atheists to throw in your face :D


Oh how about:
Ezekiel, Chapter 5:
And I will lay the dead carcases of the children of Israel before their idols; and I will scatter your bones round about your altars.


Yeah..... those damn children played too much NINTENDO.
Kill em all! lmaooooooo :p



peace

axeman



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The christian bible (the old AND *especially* the new testament) preaches mass brutal murder through word and deed.

Christianity intrinsically preaches brutal mass murder by god and underlings and history is rife with examples of it's followers following.
Turok
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What is your definition of murder? If it is "the purposeful taking of innocent human life" then you need to demonstrate the innocence of the victims.
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Luke, Chapter 14

Jesus says:
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children,and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple


So tell us.... do you hate your father, mother, wife, children,
brethren, sisters and your own life?

I sure HOPE SO or you cannto be a disciple of Jesus :D



Seriously... you guys believe a book THIS stupid? :p
Pure fiction.


peace

axeman
 
Quote from axeman:

Luke, Chapter 14

Jesus says:
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children,and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple


So tell us.... do you hate your father, mother, wife, children,
brethren, sisters and your own life?

I sure HOPE SO or you cannto be a disciple of Jesus :D



Seriously... you guys believe a book THIS stupid? :p
Pure fiction.


peace

axeman
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Shall we put it in context or just pull out something that we hope makes our point. Was that verse just stated out of a vacuum or in relation to some previous or following discussion?

I don't hate my relatives but I love God more. I have been willing to give them up for Him and after doing so He rewarded me very richly and gave them back also. The point is are you willing to give up for Him not just focus on hating your relatives. It all boils down to self and the love thereof.

Eze. 39:24 "I turned my face away and punished them in proportion to the vileness of their sins"

Now to take a verse of punishment and omit the sins is what I believe you would call creating a "strawman". At least if I did it that is what you would call it, but of course I am different.
 
A strawman requires that I attack an argument you didnt make,
or reword you argument into a weaker form and attack that instead.
So this is not a strawman.

This is me coming across another absurd bible quote
while reading about how god kills children with wild animals. :D

Im sure your children/wife would be happy to hear that you
would be willing to "give them up" for god :D

You guys are seriously twisted.

I don't hate my relatives but I love God more

Oooops... So sorry, you cant be a disciple :p
Some follower of Christ you are! NOT! :D

peace

axeman



Quote from Doubter:

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Shall we put it in context or just pull out something that we hope makes our point. Was that verse just stated out of a vacuum or in relation to some previous or following discussion?

I don't hate my relatives but I love God more. I have been willing to give them up for Him and after doing so He rewarded me very richly and gave them back also. The point is are you willing to give up for Him not just focus on hating your relatives. It all boils down to self and the love thereof.

Eze. 39:24 "I turned my face away and punished them in proportion to the vileness of their sins"

Now to take a verse of punishment and omit the sins is what I believe you would call creating a "strawman". At least if I did it that is what you would call it, but of course I am different.
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I think you are making my point, which is the subject of this thread. Minus the profanity the earliest posts described what you are doing.:)
 
Doubter and Dark, I know you have ask a couple direct questions of me and I just wanted to let you know that I will eventually answer. I am swamped at the moment and headed out of town on a plane for my usual weekend game.

I'll get back to you when I can.

JB
 
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Doubter and Dark, I know you have ask a couple direct questions of me and I just wanted to let you know that I will eventually answer. I am swamped at the moment and headed out of town on a plane for my usual weekend game.

I'll get back to you when I can.

JB
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Enjoy your weekend, thanks for responding to my posts and pms.
 
When you make a conscious effort to disregard religion...whichever it may be, you arrograntly decide to rely on your own abilities to take you where you need to go. You put all faith in the only person that matters, yourself, and discount the rest because they can only bring you back to their reality. You realize you need to transcend it all, on your own. Fuck the ignorants in your path. Only you can take you where you need to go...That breeds the arrogrance and intolerance you speak of. It all comes back to the ego in the end. Who's beter than me? If you believe that someone else(****) is going to take you there, you are severely misdirected and impotent. It is incongruent for anyone of this mentality to accept any of the believers.
 
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