Quote from munnyhunny:
You are distorting what I said for your own ends. If they are "distortionists" I cannot say. I DO know that they distorted principles of kabbalah by mixing it with the esoteric, and turned it into something resembling what is referred to today as "qabbalah".
So much for your know-it-all attitude.
It seems like I'll be the one giving you the history lesson.
Kabbalah, as a part of Jewish philosophy, did not appear in history until Late Medieval / Renaissance times.
As an esoteric philosophy, it was a product of the Medieval European, Islamic and Jewish works on alchemy, magic, and other arcane subjects.
Give credit where it is due, and stop claiming what is not an invention of your sole people.
You remind me of other imbeciles, namely the Muslim proselytizers on the internet who claim that Islam is perfectly in harmony with science as certain phrases in Quran and the Hadiths state what science proved only recently (according to them).
While not only being totally in contradiction to science when the said verses are examined, these idiots also totally ignore the fact that the first Muslim Caliphate had established the largest library of its time in Baghdad, where Muslim scholars had studied Persian, Greek and Roman works on philosophy and science, from which those said verses in Quran and Hadiths were copied in idea, sometimes even with exact wording.
Especially the one-eyed Muslim anti-Christ, Dajjal, who is exiled somewhere on an island by Allah. This fellow seems eerily similar to the Ancient Greek myth about Cyclop, who was one-eyed and also was exiled by the top Greek bad-ass deity - Zeus - on an island. The similarities in this story go on and on, but I digress.
If we want to talk a little about history, something you obviously know nothing about, here is some info for the ignorant.
Ancient Israel at different stages was<b> actually a republic</b>. It is comparable to what is referred to today as a constitutional monarchy. At other times there was anarchy and what would be called tribal feudalism.
Don't kid yourself. It might have been a theocratic monarchy, with its 23 (or how many?) judges serving as a legislature, but never a constitutional monarchy and a republic in the modern sense of the word. You're picking on words. A woman who cheated in those days was stoned to death. Talk about human rights.
Regarding the ideals of the american founders, again you are clueless. They were so heavily influenced by the Old Testament (Torah) that some historians suggest Hebrew was a hairbreadth away from being the official language, and the constitutional rights you attribute to the French and Greeks are based on Torah law (which obviously predates both societies).
Well, if you're so sure of it, I'm sure you could provide us a reference directly from the Torah or Talmud which could EVEN IMPLICITLY prove that the Ancient Greeks and their philosophic modern-era successors, the French, borrowed their conceptions about govt and society from the Torah.
You're too kind.