Masons here?

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Oh, you're a clever one aren't you.
FYI jackass, I did not say that Kabbalistic principles are BS, I said the Mason distortion of them is.
And these wonderful principles that stipulate the basic freedoms and make the US such a "great nation" were all taken directly from the Old Testament, i.e. Judaism.

There is nothing in the Masonic principles that are Kabbalistic and there are many Jewish people that are Masons as well.
 
I get it.
Stupid (Gub) and absolute idiot (Spooz).
Do you have any original thoughts, or you just pretend to be have them by approving of others.

Quote from Spooz Top:

bingo......on all accounts.
 
Quote from spd:

My Grandpa was a mason, I still have no idea what that even means. I asked him about it once and he gave me a vague brochure with some pictures of dudes smiling and stuff, but thats about it.

Basically its a roundabout way to get men out of the house and away from their nagging wives. :D :D :D
 
I didn't say the Masons exclude Jews.
But how would you know if the rituals are Kabbalsitic.
You haven't joined yet and how much do you know about the Kabbalah anyway.
BTW, do a search for Kabbalah and mason and you'll get about a billion results.
One of the strongest proofs of the connection you will find here:
Mackey’s Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, vol. i. p. 166.

Quote from ProfLogic:

There is nothing in the Masonic principles that are Kabbalistic and there are many Jewish people that are Masons as well.
 
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They were so heavily influenced by the Old Testament (Torah) that some historians suggest Hebrew was a hairbreadth away from being the official language,

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Now, now ... take those little white pills the nice doctor provided for when you feel a bit odd.

I would be surprised if any of the founding fathers (and certainly not more than one or two) could order a bagel in Hebrew.

Debate 101 teaches us: "Whenever you are trying to convince anyone of anything you must fight the urge to say something so patently absurd that your audience has to consider if it is the most absurd thing they have ever heard or only one of the most absurd statements on record."

Personally, I think it is the single most inane assertion ever made anywhere at anytime. I hope no one thinks I am antisemitic (or antimasonic) for saying so.
 
I do not think your opinion is antisemitic.
That said, Debate 101 also teaches that just because you think an idea is 'absurd', does not make it so.
Did you know that Isaac Newton also spoke Hebrew fluently and was an extremely avid studier of the Old Testament.
None of you have even bothered to check the facts.
You all are formulating opinions based on what you think is true and not what is actually true.
Stupidity at it's purest.
And BTW, the pill was not white. There was was a choice between red and blue.
I took the red one.

Quote from Swan Noir:


Debate 101 teaches us: "Whenever you are trying to convince anyone of anything you must fight the urge to say something so patently absurd that your audience has to consider if it is the most absurd thing they have ever heard or only one of the most absurd statements on record."

Personally, I think it is the single most inane assertion ever made anywhere at anytime. I hope no one thinks I am antisemitic (or antimasonic) for saying so.
 
Quote from munnyhunny:

I didn't say the Masons exclude Jews.
But how would you know if the rituals are Kabbalsitic.
You haven't joined yet and how much do you know about the Kabbalah anyway.
BTW, do a search for Kabbalah and mason and you'll get about a billion results.

My father was a Mason and there was actual communication in our family.

You'll get a billion results if you do a search on ignorance and religion . . . what's your point.

Unless you are a Mason or come from a family that was directly involved with the Masons, DeMolay, Triangles or Rainbow Girls you haven't a clue about what the organization is all about.
 
Quote from munnyhunny:

One of the strongest proofs of the connection you will find here:
Mackey’s Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, vol. i. p. 166.

The Mason's, on a local and charitable level, no longer follow the Freemason creed.
 
What's<i> your </i>point?
The same way you say the search results do not prove the connection, they do not disprove it.
And if you look for documentation, which is what I cited above in the Encyclopedia, you will see there is a connection.
I never said I know ANYTHING regarding the order. I did say they have distortions of Kabbalah in their rituals.

Quote from ProfLogic:

My father was a Mason and there was actual communication in our family.

You'll get a billion results if you do a search on ignorance and religion . . . what's your point.

Unless you are a Mason or come from a family that was directly involved with the Masons, DeMolay, Triangles or Rainbow Girls you haven't a clue about what the organization is all about.
 
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