marriage and government

[alfonso]

Quote from tikipoki:

Cutten, for all I know, no animal would kill itself out of free will for another animal, and wont sacrifice anything unless they benefit from it themselves (like keeping the wolfpack big so they have more power).

A tigress giving its life in protecting its young, in the face of hopeless odds?

Yes, I agreed that while she is alive she 'emotionally benefits' from the idea that her offspring will survive, but I think it also qualifies as a case of 'altruism' in the sense that the action wasn't motivated purely by self-interest only (she had the cubs' interests in mind too).

I think this is common behavior in various animal groups, including our 'cousins' the apes, monkeys etc. (But I'm no expert on any of this stuff. Complete idiot, actually.)

As for morals, it's too involving a debate. One I can't be bothered with. However, it's my position (and experience) that through discourse people with wildly differing moral positions can come to (general) agreements on 'right' and 'wrong'. And that wanting to do 'right' and feeling bad for having done 'wrong' are innate aspects of humanity; not 'taught'.

 

[Shrewd Dude]

Quote from LongShot:

most of these arguments against sex are so much silly nonsense. stimulating pleasure centers is all we're talking about here, nothing more profound than stimulation of physical skin sensors located on very small portion of anatomy. BIG DEAL! and if I want to pay for this SO WHAT!! WHO ARE YOU TO TELL ME I CAN'T!? Or why should you even care what i or someone else does in private??! YOU pay for massages dont you? But this is OK isnt it ..HA! It is only MONEY and ONLY SENSORY STIMULI, present in all animals. You dont see them making this a big deal, they just enjoy. so should we, so christians get lost!! DUH!! :-/

yes!

 

[LongShot]

Quote from alfonso:

Would you want a cement factory next door, a brass band on the other side, an airport across the street and a lighthouse behind you?

Probably not, right?

Are you a hypocrite for saying it's okay for those things to exist in your city even though you don't want them next door to you?

LMAO! hahahaha!

 

[LongShot]

Quote from Shrewd Dude:

yes!

you are SHREWD DUDE!

 

[LongShot]

40 pages of morons arguing AGAINST a little pleasure in one's short lifetime..

you christians are uptight and really phucked up ..lol


thank you atheism..
*I* AM YOUNG, WILD & FREE!

 

[ARogueTrader]

Lookie here!

Another supporter of bestiality, zoophelia, incest, and pedophilia with consenting boys and girls.

Your mother must be so proud.

Quote from Shrewd Dude:

yes!

 

[LongShot]

Quote from ARogueTrader:

Lookie here!

Another supporter of bestiality, zoophelia, incest, and pedophilia with consenting boys and girls.

Your mother must be so proud.

too stupid and too blinded by your spiritual nonsense to see the diff.

go away..

get on your knees and pay homage to your great Myth! HA!:-/

 

[ARogueTrader]

Too embarrassed to admit you would gratify yourself with anything on two legs, four legs, with fins, with beaks, under age the age of consent, family members etc.???

If you are going to be heathen at least make a full confession for us. Why not?

Most laws against bestiality, incest, and sex with children are based in concepts of Judeo Christian morality.

Your description of sex without moral consequence is exactly what those who practice Devil worship and/or the rationalization of sex with animals, children, and immediate family describe.

You talk a good game, but when pressed to the issue you refuse to admit you would have no problem having sex with animals, brothers and sisters, and underage children if it got you off.....now you tell us "we" don't see the difference.

Then explain the difference to all of us, we are listening.

Quote from LongShot:

too stupid and too blinded by your spiritual nonsense to see the diff.

go away..

get on your knees and pay homage to your great Myth! HA!:-/

 

[ShoeshineBoy]

Quote from alfonso:

Would you want a cement factory next door, a brass band on the other side, an airport across the street and a lighthouse behind you?

Probably not, right?

Are you a hypocrite for saying it's okay for those things to exist in your city even though you don't want them next door to you?

Thanks for the segway:

I don't want a cement factory next door because of traffic and visibility issues. I don't want an adult bookstore next door for very different reasons. And I don't think you would either if you were honest.

Forget about the traffic and the price of your home for just for a second. And then imagine you have a family. Do you want an adult bookstore next door to your home?

If not, what does that tell you about whether or not communites have the right to ask them to go somewhere else?

 

[LongShot]

Quote from ARogueTrader:

Too embarrassed to admit you would gratify yourself with anything on two legs, four legs, with fins, with beaks, under age the age of consent, family members etc.???

If you are going to be heathen at least make a full confession for us. Why not?

Most laws against bestiality, incest, and sex with children are based in concepts of Judeo Christian morality.

Your description of sex without moral consequence is exactly what those who practice Devil worship and/or the rationalization of sex with animals, children, and immediate family describe.

You talk a good game, but when pressed to the issue you refuse to admit you would have no problem having sex with animals, brothers and sisters, and underage children if it got you off.....now you tell us "we" don't see the difference.

Then explain the difference to all of us, we are listening.

you like Judeo Christian morality??

here is some for you:

GE 6:11-17, 7:11-24 God is unhappy with the wickedness of man and decides to do something about it. He kills every living thing on the face of the earth other than Noah's family and thereby makes himself the greatest mass murderer in history.

you have nerve to take Judeo Christian high moral ground!!? HA! YOU & YOUR GOD ARE A PLAGUE ON MANKIND!! [LITERALLY!!] YOUR NONSENSE HAS HELD MAN'S PROGRESS FOR TOO LONG!!

BE GONE FROM THIS EARTH! JOIN YOUR MAKER.. AND SOON!!

:-/