marriage and government

tikipoki · Jan 2, 2004

Quote from ShoeshineBoy:

Here's another question for all the athiests: Nevada is the only state with prostitution. Should Arizona or Utah have the right to say, "We don't want that here. If you want prostition, go to NV!" If you were Senate and House, would you pass a federal law that mandated the allowance of prostition in all states?

Why would you want any laws at all , except to protect the weak?

next question: Why would you want to protect the weak?

Tiki

tikipoki · Jan 2, 2004

Quote from ShoeshineBoy:

Then here's the next question: is it okay for a community or nation to say, "Okay, Saudis have multiple wives. But we don't want that. If you want multiple wives, go over there. Here's your passport."? What's wrong with a nation/culture/community setting its own standards?

Well you may answer your own question, is it ok for a community or nation to say: "Okay, you can be jewish but not here, here is your passport and fuck off"

?

Tiki

ShoeshineBoy · Jan 2, 2004

And here's what I'm getting at: let's say a state believes that a certain type of family structure will produce superior results and that's what they want their state to "stand for". Do they have the right to pursue their own beliefs w/o humanistic relativism being forced on them from Washington?

tikipoki · Jan 2, 2004

Quote from ShoeshineBoy:

And here's what I'm getting at: let's say a state believes that a certain type of family structure will produce superior results and that's what they want their state to "stand for". Do they have the right to pursue their own beliefs w/o humanistic relativism being forced on them from Washington?

So if a state beleives that blonde people with blue eyes produce superior results, they can kick the rest out? (or deal with them in another way?) If that is what they stand for?

Above ofcourse an extreme example, but what difference is - eating hamburgers or not & having 10 wives or not?

Nature doesnt care either way, and your current government doesnt care about the first one, either, but why about the second one?

Really man, its lawless anyway, but up to you for decide if you want to take another man's law in a lawless world, or make your own.

Tiki

aphexcoil · Jan 2, 2004

On a sidenote:

Does anyone sleep anymore?

ShoeshineBoy · Jan 2, 2004

Quote from Turok:

>What's wrong with a nation/culture/community
>setting its own standards?

Nothing in my book.

Generically I believe communities should and should be able to set certain standards. I also believe that a constitution is a good idea and that those standards should be consistant with such a document.

JB

Well, I think one out of four agrees with me. I think if you don't want polygamy, communes, prostitution in your state you should have the right. And I think that was the intent of the original Constitution...

Gordon Gekko · Jan 2, 2004

Quote from Gordon Gekko:

i can pay a woman to stroke my arm, but if i pay her to stroke my penis, it's illegal.

WHAT A JOKE.

can we get rid of these inane laws already...........

shoeshine, answer this......why should that be illegal?

and don't tell me because the bible says so or something....

Turok · Jan 2, 2004

>let's say a state believes that a certain type of family
>structure will produce superior results and that's what
>they want their state to "stand for".

Well, you may answer your own question.

Let's say a state believes that a certain type of family structure (let's say...Utah, 1889, polygamy) will produce superior results and that is what they want their state to "stand for". Do they have the right to pursue their own beliefs w/o religious absolutism being forced on them from Washington?

Well???

JB

ShoeshineBoy · Jan 2, 2004

Quote from tikipoki:

So if a state beleives that blonde people with blue eyes produce superior results, they can kick the rest out? (or deal with them in another way?) If that is what they stand for?

Above ofcourse an extreme example, but what difference is - eating hamburgers or not & having 10 wives or not?

Nature doesnt care either way, and your current government doesnt care about the first one, either, but why about the second one?

Really man, its lawless anyway, but up to you for decide if you want to take another man's law in a lawless world, or make your own.

Tiki

So are you using this argument to say that state/community standards can be set?

tikipoki · Jan 2, 2004

Quote from ShoeshineBoy:

So are you using this argument to say that state/community standards can be set?

Yeah, and that everyone is basically free to ignore them

Tiki